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06-15-2005, 12:20 AM
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By the way, version 17 just out and it is supposed to fix jerky gear change and engine drag problems. 
What reason are you giving PML to get the upgrade ? I need some pointers to demand one too.
Originally Posted by Kiasu King Kong' date='Jun 15 2005, 02:13 AM
Tell them the engine very jerky and sometimes about to stall. I told them that and they had no choice but to upgrade software.
[quote name='new owner' date='Jun 14 2005, 11:33 PM'][quote name='eggz' date='Jun 15 2005, 10:02 AM']Couple of questions.
I'm currently at 12K+ km, should I send in for servicing or wait till idrive tells me I should?
Still haven't got the 16.2 upgrade, anyone knows if PML has the 17.0 software already? Thinking of sending the car in for both servicing and s/w upgrade if 17.0 is available.
Another question, what does your idrive report on the brake pads? mine says 3.4K km. Not sure if I should change these also.
BTW, saw the new facelifted 730i on the road today...very nice!
[quote name='new owner' date='Jun 14 2005, 11:33 PM'][quote name='eggz' date='Jun 15 2005, 10:02 AM']Couple of questions.
I'm currently at 12K+ km, should I send in for servicing or wait till idrive tells me I should?
Still haven't got the 16.2 upgrade, anyone knows if PML has the 17.0 software already? Thinking of sending the car in for both servicing and s/w upgrade if 17.0 is available.
Another question, what does your idrive report on the brake pads? mine says 3.4K km. Not sure if I should change these also.
BTW, saw the new facelifted 730i on the road today...very nice!
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06-15-2005, 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Kiasu King Kong' date='Jun 15 2005, 02:20 AM
By the way, version 17 just out and it is supposed to fix jerky gear change and engine drag problems.
06-15-2005, 01:30 AM
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Not sure if PML has it but available in Europe and US now.
Out as in PML has it?
Originally Posted by eggz' date='Jun 15 2005, 03:19 AM
[quote name='Kiasu King Kong' date='Jun 15 2005, 02:20 AM']By the way, version 17 just out and it is supposed to fix jerky gear change and engine drag problems.
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06-15-2005, 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Kiasu King Kong' date='Jun 15 2005, 03:30 AM
Not sure if PML has it but available in Europe and US now.
06-15-2005, 03:42 AM
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Originally Posted by eggz' date='Jun 15 2005, 10:46 AM
[quote name='Kiasu King Kong' date='Jun 15 2005, 03:30 AM']Not sure if PML has it but available in Europe and US now.
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[/quote]eggz,
Are you sure you want version 17? They stop the LED eyebrows from working.
06-15-2005, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by BMW530' date='Jun 15 2005, 07:42 PM
[quote name='eggz' date='Jun 15 2005, 10:46 AM'][quote name='Kiasu King Kong' date='Jun 15 2005, 03:30 AM']Not sure if PML has it but available in Europe and US now.
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[/quote]eggz,
Are you sure you want version 17? They stop the LED eyebrows from working.
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[/quote]What do you mean? It doesn't come on when the headlamps are switched on?
06-15-2005, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by totoseow' date='Jun 14 2005, 10:32 PM
big brand cars as a whole are exported all over the world.? to fussy countries like singapore, japan us of a...n to less developed places where people service their cars as and when they want.? heck there probably is only 1 dealer in south africa or shanghai or timbaktu...n the petrol there are considered good if u get 92 octane.
my point is...its a fact that cars r de-tuned to keep them lasting in any country...any climate.? for places like singapore...with good roads, easily available servicing, we can afford to liberate the engine without harming it.? sure something will give if u push too hard.? be it a car or ur overworked pc, fone..watever.? I disagree that liberating ur cars engine will mean that its gonna crap out sooner than the stock ECU...considering that we change oil every 10,000km...we hv more than 98 octane gas. so guys, loosen up...ur car is more well made than u think.
as for pml discovering the mod....no problems there.? ur program will be put back FOC if discovered.? u hv to understand how this work.? the ecu has many functions...besides ur engine.? think of it as a cupboard with many compartments.? the area that controls ur engine is just one of the drawers.? the drawer is not changed.? the differen values hv just been optimised at different rpm ranges.? when ur car gets recall for alternator problems...lock problems..power window problems...pml does not touch the engine mapping.? ur software upgrade does not modify the values of how ur engine is run across the rev range.? According to Rob...he has only known 2 cars that BMW has changed a complete ECU.? thats the E46 M3 n the 7s.? wotever reprogramming he does is his trade secret.? He warranties agst defects of any sorts from his tuning.? As well, i am not here to start an argument on which is better.? Those who have done it, will probably swear by it.? Bear in mind this is different from reflashing ur ECU which is what HIOP does.? I have said a lot about what is actually done.? Perhaps those who are skeptical shud re-read what I wrote.? I have mod my cars many times over...and I am selective over what I do.? None of my cars ever ran into problems.? U do pay a premium over piggybacks n reflashed ECU...again u need to know why.? As far as I know..what DMS does is totally different from what u may perceive.? Give him a call and understand it better.
I am very happy so far and I will say the same for the other 3 who has done it without needing to verify.? Its a different car we have now.
my point is...its a fact that cars r de-tuned to keep them lasting in any country...any climate.? for places like singapore...with good roads, easily available servicing, we can afford to liberate the engine without harming it.? sure something will give if u push too hard.? be it a car or ur overworked pc, fone..watever.? I disagree that liberating ur cars engine will mean that its gonna crap out sooner than the stock ECU...considering that we change oil every 10,000km...we hv more than 98 octane gas. so guys, loosen up...ur car is more well made than u think.
as for pml discovering the mod....no problems there.? ur program will be put back FOC if discovered.? u hv to understand how this work.? the ecu has many functions...besides ur engine.? think of it as a cupboard with many compartments.? the area that controls ur engine is just one of the drawers.? the drawer is not changed.? the differen values hv just been optimised at different rpm ranges.? when ur car gets recall for alternator problems...lock problems..power window problems...pml does not touch the engine mapping.? ur software upgrade does not modify the values of how ur engine is run across the rev range.? According to Rob...he has only known 2 cars that BMW has changed a complete ECU.? thats the E46 M3 n the 7s.? wotever reprogramming he does is his trade secret.? He warranties agst defects of any sorts from his tuning.? As well, i am not here to start an argument on which is better.? Those who have done it, will probably swear by it.? Bear in mind this is different from reflashing ur ECU which is what HIOP does.? I have said a lot about what is actually done.? Perhaps those who are skeptical shud re-read what I wrote.? I have mod my cars many times over...and I am selective over what I do.? None of my cars ever ran into problems.? U do pay a premium over piggybacks n reflashed ECU...again u need to know why.? As far as I know..what DMS does is totally different from what u may perceive.? Give him a call and understand it better.
I am very happy so far and I will say the same for the other 3 who has done it without needing to verify.? Its a different car we have now.
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And put it this way, BMW is not car god, even though it designs and produces the engines. There bound to be some smart Alexes out there smarter than BMW's in-house engineers that could squeeze more juices out of the same box. And I think Rob is one of those.
06-15-2005, 07:23 AM
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guys go n buy this weeks auto car..uk version...M5 beats Ferrari 430. or at least in the 'value for money' dept. it actually left the 430 reeling on A n B roads in wales...i m pretty sure its due to the electronics.
I have read many mags on the 430. and i think in looks dept, the intoxicating sound of a rari engine is enuf to make me orgas...to me that is the best car in the world right now...but this article is interesting...and i do believe it to be true....in a certain way...
I have read many mags on the 430. and i think in looks dept, the intoxicating sound of a rari engine is enuf to make me orgas...to me that is the best car in the world right now...but this article is interesting...and i do believe it to be true....in a certain way...
06-15-2005, 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by tategoi' date='Jun 15 2005, 10:58 PM
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And put it this way, BMW is not car god, even though it designs and produces the engines. There bound to be some smart Alexes out there smarter than BMW's in-house engineers that could squeeze more juices out of the same box. And I think Rob is one of those.
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[/quote]IMHO: Stock car ECU map are done with lots of consideration such as fuel consumption peformance; strict emission control by individual country regulation as such it is not always for upmost performance therefore take any car stock engine and there will alway be room to optimise them for improved performance but sometimes at the expense of eg. emission spec breach or fuel consumption goes out the window etc. etc. OK.. who got Rob's number?
by the way any goodies to get to take advantage of june 25% accessory promotion?
06-15-2005, 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by russo' date='Jun 15 2005, 03:55 PM
[quote name='BMW530' date='Jun 15 2005, 07:42 PM'][quote name='eggz' date='Jun 15 2005, 10:46 AM'][quote name='Kiasu King Kong' date='Jun 15 2005, 03:30 AM']Not sure if PML has it but available in Europe and US now.
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Are you sure you want version 17? They stop the LED eyebrows from working.
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That's correct. You may have read in this forum that some US and UK drivers who just had a software upgrade to 16/17 have found out their Orange eyebrow LED's don't work anymore when lights are on.