This health care reform debate is crazy!
08-13-2009, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by pjinca' post='975448' date='Aug 13 2009, 02:02 PM
How so? In your example if you list something for free (or low cost) there will be a run on it and I deny that is the case all the time. Want a better example?
When I was in high school a Ford dealer tried a new tactic, if you bought a Ford that month you got a brand new Yugo free. Sales dropped 30% for that time period. Go figure, perfect example of something for nothing and there wasn't the "run" you predict.
The whole idea that there will be a run on healthcare because it's free or low cost is stupid. Anyone out there anxious to go to the hospital? The doctor? The dentist? Seriously, what kind of moron is eager to need medical attention?
When I was in high school a Ford dealer tried a new tactic, if you bought a Ford that month you got a brand new Yugo free. Sales dropped 30% for that time period. Go figure, perfect example of something for nothing and there wasn't the "run" you predict.
The whole idea that there will be a run on healthcare because it's free or low cost is stupid. Anyone out there anxious to go to the hospital? The doctor? The dentist? Seriously, what kind of moron is eager to need medical attention?
08-13-2009, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by pjinca' post='975425' date='Aug 13 2009, 01:51 PM
And the downside is? Health insurance companies are festering puss wounds of society. Run by and employing exclusively vultures and the most grotesque and sadist among us.
Spend more time and effort regulating these "vultures" rather than trying to compete with them....
08-13-2009, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by GENEaTALS' post='975453' date='Aug 13 2009, 02:05 PM
the ones that don't have medical insurance currently....I know you've seen the local news with the free 7 or 9 clinic set up @ The Forum in Inglewood. By day 3 are asking for more volunteers as the current staff cannot see everyone and they are almost a day behind for seeing the people that are outside....magnify that to a national scale....
Granted, but those are people that haven't seen a doctor in YEARS. That would subside as people go once again about their normal lives. People that can't afford insurance now, typically are the ones that cannot afford too much time off work either. So the argument is pure stupidity. Maybe there WILL be an initial run as people try to get themselves checked out. After that? It will return to the norm as people cannot afford to miss that much time from work.
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Originally Posted by pjinca' post='975448' date='Aug 13 2009, 04:02 PM
How so? In your example if you list something for free (or low cost) there will be a run on it and I deny that is the case all the time. Want a better example?
When I was in high school a Ford dealer tried a new tactic, if you bought a Ford that month you got a brand new Yugo free. Sales dropped 30% for that time period. Go figure, perfect example of something for nothing and there wasn't the "run" you predict.
The whole idea that there will be a run on healthcare because it's free or low cost is stupid. Anyone out there anxious to go to the hospital? The doctor? Seriously, what kind of moron is eager to need medical attention?
When I was in high school a Ford dealer tried a new tactic, if you bought a Ford that month you got a brand new Yugo free. Sales dropped 30% for that time period. Go figure, perfect example of something for nothing and there wasn't the "run" you predict.
The whole idea that there will be a run on healthcare because it's free or low cost is stupid. Anyone out there anxious to go to the hospital? The doctor? Seriously, what kind of moron is eager to need medical attention?
The good or service offered for free or at a subsidized cost has to be something people want or need. If there is no want or need for a good/service, no rise in demand will occur no matter how low the price/free.
Please, do some research regarding free market supply side economics.
08-13-2009, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by GENEaTALS' post='975458' date='Aug 13 2009, 02:08 PM
As stated earlier by me....
Spend more time and effort regulating these "vultures" rather than trying to compete with them....
Spend more time and effort regulating these "vultures" rather than trying to compete with them....
Better regulation would help - that way I could honestly tell my doctor about my previous 3 knee surgeries or my 2 gunshot wounds, because if I tell him nowI am disqualified since I have pre-existing conditions. Your insurance companies are absurd
08-13-2009, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by pjinca' post='975463' date='Aug 13 2009, 02:11 PM
Better regulation would help - that way I could honestly tell my doctor about my previous 3 knee surgeries or my 2 gunshot wounds, because if I tell him nowI am disqualified since I have pre-existing conditions. Your insurance companies are absurd
you think HMO's are absurd now....hopefully none of us would have to experience a public health care system....
I'll take "my" insurance company thank you....
08-13-2009, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by GENEaTALS' post='975489' date='Aug 13 2009, 02:33 PM
Right, imagine if everyone was trying to get ALL of their conditions treated under a public system....the wait lists would go on forever.....
you think HMO's are absurd now....hopefully none of us would have to experience a public health care system....
I'll take "my" insurance company thank you....
you think HMO's are absurd now....hopefully none of us would have to experience a public health care system....
I'll take "my" insurance company thank you....
I would too if I could get my knee looked at. They are thieves and look for ANY reason not to cover a papercut much less anything that might actually cost them a dime.
08-13-2009, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by GENEaTALS' post='975489' date='Aug 13 2009, 02:33 PM
Right, imagine if everyone was trying to get ALL of their conditions treated under a public system....the wait lists would go on forever.....
you think HMO's are absurd now....hopefully none of us would have to experience a public health care system....
I'll take "my" insurance company thank you....
you think HMO's are absurd now....hopefully none of us would have to experience a public health care system....
I'll take "my" insurance company thank you....
So in other words they would go ahead and take care of themselves for once and take care of everything they can't take care of because of lack of insurance or the fact that their current insurance won't cover anything they really need? I'm ok with that
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Not to threadjack here, but on the topic of insurance companies, I am a former insurance broker. And being a former insurance broker, I can relate to both of your comments on insurance companies (and their reluctance to pay claims). My former clients were the large oil drillers in Alaska and Texas, and I had insured them with AIG....do you know how hard it is to get AIG to ever pay any claims?????? It's ridiculous!!!!!! That being said, what "bakes my noodle" now is that they were the recipients of federal bailouts!!!!!!!!!!!! It's just nauseating...
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Originally Posted by theonlychoman' post='975505' date='Aug 13 2009, 02:43 PM
Not to threadjack here, but on the topic of insurance companies, I am a former insurance broker. And being a former insurance broker, I can relate to both of your comments on insurance companies (and their reluctance to pay claims). My former clients were the large oil drillers in Alaska and Texas, and I had insured them with AIG....do you know how hard it is to get AIG to ever pay any claims?????? It's ridiculous!!!!!! That being said, what "bakes my noodle" now is that they were the recipients of federal bailouts!!!!!!!!!!!! It's just nauseating...
