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From: Originally from Koeln, Deutschland. Enjoying it in Bonita Springs, Florida Now :)
Exactly (I like the red light camera reference too BTW), the problem with giving tax breaks for healthier foods? It is more expensive to produce healthier foods so that would offset the tax breaks. Many of the unhealthy foods have fillers and byproducts in them that drive production costs way down at the expense of health.
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Ah, but my point still stands: Taxing unhealthy food heavily, the way we do with other unhealthy products (cigs, liquor) would lead to a healthier overall America. It could also help fund healthcare AND assist in the Preventative care that is so important in a healthier overall society to lessen healthcare's costs.
The problem? The federal government is very bad at using tax dollars for the purpose of the tax. The money would start out helping fund healthcare then it would go to fund other projects and healthcare would end up underfunded again.
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From: Originally from Koeln, Deutschland. Enjoying it in Bonita Springs, Florida Now :)
But even though I never eat that shit, I still find it wrong to tax it.
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I dunno, what I find much more obnoxious than taxing fatty foods is the really obese people with handicap placards and motorized scooters simply because they actually got too fat to walk. That is much more distressing to me. They are far more the reason that healthcare costs as much as it does than smoking.
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From: Originally from Koeln, Deutschland. Enjoying it in Bonita Springs, Florida Now :)
I dunno, what I find much more obnoxious than taxing fatty foods is the really obese people with handicap placards and motorized scooters simply because they actually got too fat to walk. That is much more distressing to me. They are far more the reason that healthcare costs as much as it does than smoking.
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That's a good point...I wish there was another way to actually change the mindset of the people without forcing the change down their throat...too bad that is near to impossible. But you also have to think of our population, for many, McDonalds is filling an cheap, and to keep the prices low, McDonalds would end up taking the hit so it wouldn't be too bad for the consumer, more so for the company. This however, could cause the shutdown of many companies depending on how heavy the tax is. It is the same as the luxury tax many years ago...instead of the boat buyers paying the tax to keep the prices down, the boat makers had to end up paying the tax. That's why the luxury tax was abolished. However, the demand for junk food is a less elastic, so more burden would fall on the consumer. Again, time would tell.
I don't think we could compare it to the luxury tax, this is different.
I don't know if you have them in Florida, but here there is a "healthy" grocery store called Trader Joes - have you seen teh prices in there? They are astronomical. My point being a tax on very unhealthy foods (Skele suggested foods with 50g fat/serving) would at least, hopefully, bring unhealthy foods prices in line with the more healthy alternatives. Right now the upper middle class are the only ones who can afford to eat as healthy as possible.
Put it this way, if there were say 100% tax on a Big Mac meal it would be what, around $15. That sure would make a Jamba Juice smoothie a lot more attractive (that is if you don;t throw it at other motorists)
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From: Originally from Koeln, Deutschland. Enjoying it in Bonita Springs, Florida Now :)
And as for the throwing part
And BTW, yea we got a bunch of those health stores too....REALLY expensive.
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I don't think it would run McD's out of business, how many Cig companies have closed their doors since the multi-billion dollar lawsuits and ridiculous taxes? Americans still want to smoke and they will still want a big burger every now and then (not exactly what you get at McD's but you get the idea)
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From: Originally from Koeln, Deutschland. Enjoying it in Bonita Springs, Florida Now :)
I don't think it would run McD's out of business, how many Cig companies have closed their doors since the multi-billion dollar lawsuits and ridiculous taxes? Americans still want to smoke and they will still want a big burger every now and then (not exactly what you get at McD's but you get the idea)