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Old 08-13-2009, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by pjinca' post='975230' date='Aug 13 2009, 10:48 AM
yes, and Teddy Roosevelt said in 1918 - "We have no room for hyphenated Americans, because a hyphenated American has divided loyalties and will surely be the downfall of this great nation" (paraphrase, but I will post the original in a bit)
My point is by your reasoning I am a hispanic-American (a term I detest). I am not HALF an American, not when I have served, fought, and bled for the country I love. I despise people that try to make me out to be less than what I am, a full-blooded, loyal, American first and foremost.
wait lemme get this straight... your mexican and you don't drive one of these? what the hell? wheres your heritage JOKE!
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Originally Posted by pjinca' post='975232' date='Aug 13 2009, 10:49 AM
sitting at county general WITH insurance blows if it is not a "member" hospital, better hope you can hop to one that is
no theyll give you an ambulance ride to the nearest one..
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Originally Posted by craigm1841' post='975233' date='Aug 13 2009, 10:49 AM
this thread prompted me to have a good discussion with a black coworker last night. i dont call him "african american" because he doesnt call me "european american"

if i need to make reference to an ethnicity, it is easy (and now socially acceptable) to use skin color. last i checked, most of the black people i have met are just "american". therefore prompting me to use another discriptor. skin color is the easiest.

when you deviate pronunciation of the color, then you start tipping the scale to unacceptable, ie. blacky, whitey... regardless of which direction you are going in.
i prefer transparent-american thank you..
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Originally Posted by skelevirus' post='975261' date='Aug 13 2009, 11:12 AM
wait lemme get this straight... your mexican and you don't drive one of these? what the hell? wheres your heritage JOKE!
Well, no, I am not Mexican, but my wife is. My parents are from Chile. I was born here, so I am American. Hence the distinction, as I tell my friends that claim to Mexican - are you now or have you ever been a Mexican citizen? No, then shut up - you're American, your PARENTS are Mexican.
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Originally Posted by skelevirus' post='975262' date='Aug 13 2009, 11:13 AM
no theyll give you an ambulance ride to the nearest one..
And charge you out the a$$ for the trip too, which the insurance won't cover BTW
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Originally Posted by pipper' post='975236' date='Aug 13 2009, 10:51 AM
police department? (or would you rather hire your own personal militia?)
fire department?
you like plumbing and running water in your house?
if canada decides to attack us would you rather have you and a neighbor defending your house or the marines?
or would you rather privatize all this and put it into the private sector who's ONLY concern is profit and loss.

no one is saying the govt will be the ONLY provider of healthcare, but rather an option for people who dont have insurance. heaven forbid you get cancer and then lose your job, cause it will be IMPOSSIBLE for you to find insurance nowadays, then youll be stuck with a 6 figure bill every year for the rest of your life. consider it like public schools, you pay for them in your taxes and you can use them if you like. or you can send your kids to a private school and pay from your own pocket.
good point +1 although hiring my own private militia does sound super cool...
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Originally Posted by skelevirus' post='975269' date='Aug 13 2009, 11:16 AM
i prefer transparent-american thank you..
^^ That was pretty good
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Originally Posted by pjinca' post='975272' date='Aug 13 2009, 11:19 AM
And charge you out the a$$ for the trip too, which the insurance won't cover BTW
no way m.i.s.p. takes care of everything!!
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Originally Posted by CWS530' post='975242' date='Aug 13 2009, 10:55 AM
Now look what you've done. I hope you're happy.

bwaaahahaha calvin to save the day!!
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Originally Posted by craigm1841' post='975244' date='Aug 13 2009, 10:56 AM
maybe because i am young and ambitious and strong minded and my dreams havent been crushed i have this great idea about being a politician and holding true to my beliefs and not deviating from that for popularity. I will never sacrafice my dignity or self respect. if i have to, i wont run for any political office. I will always be active in my community though. i dont "need" to be a politician, but if i pull it off i will be the first person in my family since Levi P. Morton and John Morton. Since there is a couple hundred year gap, nobody in my family is expecting me to be a polotician, therefore i dont need to do it to please anyone other then myself (and my future constituants)

i have already made my friends and family proud. no pressure here. i wont do it if comes down to it
oh thank god, i was worried for a sec.. now go get that girl based upon mutual attraction and comatability not because your 'fraid


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