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04-15-2009, 06:29 AM
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After reading Iceman's post above(thank you Iceman) and seeing the source link to the BraunGP website, I also saw the press announcement about them partnering with Virgin. My first thought was that its not really appropriate considering they just f***ed most of the big F1 teams 
, but joking aside I think its a very interesting team being put together. Richard Branson is also recognised for being innovative, so it will be interesting to see how the whole Braun GP team/package developes during the course of the year, i.e. on and off of the track. The big question is can they take this momentum through to the end of the season and whether they come back next season as a strong technical and financial contender. Interesting times...
, but joking aside I think its a very interesting team being put together. Richard Branson is also recognised for being innovative, so it will be interesting to see how the whole Braun GP team/package developes during the course of the year, i.e. on and off of the track. The big question is can they take this momentum through to the end of the season and whether they come back next season as a strong technical and financial contender. Interesting times...
04-15-2009, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by xBMWx' post='847946' date='Apr 15 2009, 03:29 PM
After reading Iceman's post above(thank you Iceman) and seeing the source link to the BraunGP website, I also saw the press announcement about them partnering with Virgin. My first thought was that its not really appropriate considering they just f***ed most of the big F1 teams , but joking aside I think its a very interesting team being put together. Richard Branson is also recognised for being innovative, so it will be interesting to see how the whole Braun GP team/package developes during the course of the year, i.e. on and off of the track. The big question is can they take this momentum through to the end of the season and whether they come back next season as a strong technical and financial contender. Interesting times...
, but joking aside I think its a very interesting team being put together. Richard Branson is also recognised for being innovative, so it will be interesting to see how the whole Braun GP team/package developes during the course of the year, i.e. on and off of the track. The big question is can they take this momentum through to the end of the season and whether they come back next season as a strong technical and financial contender. Interesting times...
Richard Branson seems keen to get into F1, and I can't see him wanting to be just a sponsor for too long, He'll want his own team!!
04-15-2009, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Patrick E61' post='847802' date='Apr 15 2009, 02:44 AM
I did not see this coming...
http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/press...ica_150409.aspx
More FAIL by the FIA.
http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/press...ica_150409.aspx
More FAIL by the FIA.
04-15-2009, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by swajames' post='848212' date='Apr 15 2009, 09:05 PM
Nope, it's the right answer. Earlier in this thread a number of us predicted the outcome would be as it was.
I disagree!
04-15-2009, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Patrick E61' post='848227' date='Apr 15 2009, 11:19 AM
I disagree!
04-15-2009, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Patrick E61' post='848227' date='Apr 15 2009, 09:19 PM
Congrats!
I disagree!
I disagree!
Anyway let's end this poor show as quickly as possible. What i don't understand is the following judgement: Why on Earth did FIA needed to wait till 15th of April, and 2 races, to "rule" or "find" what they already approved?! I mean how idiotic does this sound???
Why not tell the team(s), at the first hint of appeal, hey guys play along cuz we've already been informed and we've already agreed ! Cut the BS FIA ! You aimed at cost reductions and now fracking low life teams with only one sponsor get to do the rules, when all the other teams have to struggle to find fresh money to develop this "interpretation" of diffuser, all with restricted access to proper testing and wind tunnel. KERS anyone?! Damn with all the cost cutting BS!
Oh and i do agree with Dr Theissen. If the rules are not clear enough for everyone and there is room for interpretation, this isn't a sport anymore but more or less a fight based on luck, interpretations, and good lawyers. It becomes a "Court sport"!
And yes i do think that with races to go the top teams will adopt as best as possible this double diffuser and thus order should be reinstalled. Shame to FIA, that's all i got to say!
04-15-2009, 11:34 AM
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Dr. Theissen...
Yeah... He's just saying this because he is mad at himself for not interpreting the rules correctly.
If he would be on the other side, he would now say the exact opposite.
Fact is, as everywhere, rules need an interpretion. Three teams did it right and even got the OK before doing so, because theya asked if they are reading and interpreting it right, the others didn't.
This is one of the very rare times FIA has done a great job!
Yeah... He's just saying this because he is mad at himself for not interpreting the rules correctly.
If he would be on the other side, he would now say the exact opposite.
Fact is, as everywhere, rules need an interpretion. Three teams did it right and even got the OK before doing so, because theya asked if they are reading and interpreting it right, the others didn't.
This is one of the very rare times FIA has done a great job!
04-15-2009, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' post='848288' date='Apr 15 2009, 12:22 PM
I agree.. with you!
Anyway let's end this poor show as quickly as possible. What i don't understand is the following judgement: Why on Earth did FIA needed to wait till 15th of April, and 2 races, to "rule" or "find" what they already approved?! I mean how idiotic does this sound???
Why not tell the team(s), at the first hint of appeal, hey guys play along cuz we've already been informed and we've already agreed ! Cut the BS FIA ! You aimed at cost reductions and now fracking low life teams with only one sponsor get to do the rules, when all the other teams have to struggle to find fresh money to develop this "interpretation" of diffuser, all with restricted access to proper testing and wind tunnel. KERS anyone?! Damn with all the cost cutting BS!
Oh and i do agree with Dr Theissen. If the rules are not clear enough for everyone and there is room for interpretation, this isn't a sport anymore but more or less a fight based on luck, interpretations, and good lawyers. It becomes a "Court sport"!
And yes i do think that with races to go the top teams will adopt as best as possible this double diffuser and thus order should be reinstalled. Shame to FIA, that's all i got to say!
Anyway let's end this poor show as quickly as possible. What i don't understand is the following judgement: Why on Earth did FIA needed to wait till 15th of April, and 2 races, to "rule" or "find" what they already approved?! I mean how idiotic does this sound???
Why not tell the team(s), at the first hint of appeal, hey guys play along cuz we've already been informed and we've already agreed ! Cut the BS FIA ! You aimed at cost reductions and now fracking low life teams with only one sponsor get to do the rules, when all the other teams have to struggle to find fresh money to develop this "interpretation" of diffuser, all with restricted access to proper testing and wind tunnel. KERS anyone?! Damn with all the cost cutting BS!
Oh and i do agree with Dr Theissen. If the rules are not clear enough for everyone and there is room for interpretation, this isn't a sport anymore but more or less a fight based on luck, interpretations, and good lawyers. It becomes a "Court sport"!
And yes i do think that with races to go the top teams will adopt as best as possible this double diffuser and thus order should be reinstalled. Shame to FIA, that's all i got to say!
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Originally Posted by swajames' post='848334' date='Apr 15 2009, 10:51 PM
Well, in fairness, they did... The only reason this went the way it did was because the other teams appealed, as they knew it was their only chance to get one last throw of the dice...
...cuz correct me if i'm wrong, the teams did not contest FIA's allegedly decision but they contested the use of the diffuser and the diffuser itself as per FIA regulations.