lmk

hehe! got you right?
5K...ok la...but on the high side lor.
in my opinion, you should go for the 12" inch sub and 6" mid instead.
this Audision only provide 35 watts rms per channel, under power.
No comments on Alpine, because i did not try it. But i will go for fosgate processor and tune with an RTA.

lmk

Like Glen said in the concert, "take it to the limit" is my wife's credit card song.
no prob la, you can bring along your favourite CD to play in my ride lor.

Edlee

LMK. Any idea what I can do with my Logic 7? I've been itching to do it up but everytime I approach my trusted installers, they tell me "don't mess with it". It'll really be a waste to rip out the L7 because I ordered it with the car and paid quite some money for it.

BZSAB

So, what did happen to your golf bag? Did you find it and how did you go about you game on Sunday? Good that you still have a good sense of humor. But you are not alone, I remember going to the golf club without my golf clubs too

BZSAB

33, Ah Boa and friends gang raped my ride tonite. All organs are with them now. Regarding second antenna, apparently it cannot be mounted under the front of our ride since it is metallic; interference. So it has to be located at the windscreen. Just make sure it is taped to prevent vibrations. BTW, how the !@#$%^& did you guys change your nick?

I dont know how Ah Boa and gang make money. they spent a good 3.5 hours at my place and only charge $80. These guys are really Gems!

tcc, I think OT = Off Topic

Ah Boa will be reverting to me on possible ICE upgrade. Since I do not have very disserning ears, I will be doing the minimalistic route. Will seek advice when quotation is received. Thus far, I think Ah Boa will be proposing use of 10" sub, 4" Mid, tweeters and amps.

LMK, however much you spend on ICE, it cannot outdo a good pair of Wing Flaps!

lmk

Big Bro Ed, i wish i can recommend you a better solution for Logic 7, like your installers said, don't mess with it. But not all is impossible.
Let's narrow down the reasons.
The Harmon Kardon (Philips) system in the logic 7 is way too under power, something like 30 watts or lower per channel pumping into the speakers.

2 major problems:

1. Under power
2. low quality drivers used (all tweeter, mids and subs)

Logic 7 is like our Pioneer / Yamaha AV amp in our home theatre. It processes the sound into 7 channels and create an ambience which emulate a concert hall, church or disco...etc.

this is a manipulation of time shift and phase. This will allow the sound travel towards the driver side at the same time although the distance from the right channel is closer to the driver than the left channel. Thus the soundstage of good imaging is acheived.

But all this, needs a high power amp and good speakers/subs to drive the sound pressure to minimise distortion and accurately deliver the sound to our ears. If we can take our home AV amp into the car with 200 watts rms to each channel, that will be great but not reality. On top of that, the sub woofer of inferior quality, cannot product enough sound pressure to be felt. All you can hear is like lots of sound coming out but you just cannot feel any punch as a result. Like i explained to our friends yesterday, Bass are to be felt not heard, good sound reproduction even at low level should possess clarity and when we talk during the playback, the music should not be heard like noises, but remained as music to our ears.

therefore, 2 things can be done.

1. line boost the power output. that is to put an amp between the output and the speakers. highly impossible because of the 13 speakers needed.
2. change all the 4 speakers drivers on the 4 doors which act as the main drivers, a better solution, this will definitely improve the sound quality by leaps and bounce. The rest of the ambience drivers remain.
3. couple with option 2. Change the subwoofer and drive it with a high damping factor power amp like class D amp, Fosgate, PPI or even our friend Audison Thesis or V series are good low frequency amp.

with 2 and 3, it is highly possible and cause minimum messing with the original stock setup.

Sound proof all doors and install the subwoofer onto the back with MDF board. This will stiffen the bass and with a good damping factor amp, resonance and vibration will be minimised.

Remove the line to the orignal sub, connect to the sub woofer amp.

Tune the setup with RTA.

Hope this can give you a solution.

Because the other solution will be to remove the few K's you have spent on the system and replace with a total different system.

lmk

BZSAB,

read my the other recommendations.
12" is minimum, 6" mid is recommended.

for car, go for power power power! Be it engine or power amp, just go for power money can buy.

If you import yourself, you may save quite a bit and yet some good quality stuff.
Like me, basic. subwoofer, mid and tweeters. and a good amp. Also, i will recommend only the front doors will be adequate.
It will not cost you more than 3K for a decent setup.

tcc39

Confirmed gone. I have to rent a set of clubs from the pro shop.

I am quite sure I did bring my bag back home on 11 June 06. What did anyone take my bag I don't know. It's not a Honma 5 stars or anything like that. Just that you are quite used to some of your clubs as you should know.
Anyway, I guess it's time to look for a new set.

OT= off topic (thanks for the correction)

Fireplace

Haha. no mod get depressed??? How can? I am sure there is always something to do for the car...Here's something for you to think about. Buy the most luxurious SK-II moisturizer and moisturize your leather seats...afterall, leather is also skin what. Haha.

nuvi360

ok what amp can i get to drive to subwoofer ie another on top of my current audison and thats bang for bucks.

ah meng now is pushing me to change to 6" and throw the 4 " to the rear seats.he suggested i get another amp to power the sub.
what is your view of a boxed sub woofer compared to say free air.do i need one or 2 subs?
actually want a sub to produce punchy bass but right now its like a dull bass.

what is RTA.

wah laio i see i can end up spending and drain like a tap.