Finally! Bluetooth Upgrade is Scheduled for Monday
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Originally Posted by jeffnin' date='Oct 27 2004, 11:19 AM
[quote name='John W' date='Oct 27 2004, 09:07 AM']Hi - one question on all this.
If I DO NOT have Nav, will the phone, either BT or CPT9000 have voice activation?
If I DO NOT have Nav, will the phone, either BT or CPT9000 have voice activation?
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[/quote]Commentary on Above and Update on Use During the Drive to the Office Today
Plus you get better reception by using the shark fin antenna. The reception was ever so slightly better with the hardwired cradle and Motorola/BMW Timeport Phone and exterior antenna in my 01 530. At the time this was a dealer installed BMW accessory. But my phone became obsolete with Cingular and I could not use it with their network. So I had to buy a different phone which would not work with the hands free telephone system in my e39. It is about trade offs. The Bluetooth advantage is that you can change phones as they become obsolete. And you have a more convenient solution. One probably will need to add a charger to my car so that I can keep it charging while in the car. Another issue is audio quality. I used the BT solution in my car today on my way to the office to talk with two of my employees. They both said that the audio quality was marginal with the Bluetooth approach. They liked the hard wired approach with my 01 530 better. One person in my office said that the Bluetooth calls today sounded like a walkie talkie. Another person in my office said it sounded like an internet telephone call. I may end up getting a cradle with hard wiring so that I can use the shark fin antenna. I am still evaluating my options. In any event, I admire BMW for fixing the Bluetooth issue as a retrofit for 04 e60 owners.
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Originally Posted by John W' date='Oct 27 2004, 11:07 AM
Hi - one question on all this.
If I DO NOT have Nav, will the phone, either BT or CPT9000 have voice activation?
If I DO NOT have Nav, will the phone, either BT or CPT9000 have voice activation?
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I think that you need Voice Command which is part of the Nav Option in the US.
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Those two posts above were by me. Sorry, I wasn't logged in at the office.
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My Ride: 2004 545i 6 spd Sports Package | NAV | PDC | Logic 7 | BT retrofit | SW V13.3
So will any V60 work with the integrated eject box in lieu of the $530 CPT900? I am having a hard time finding a Verizon V60. Radio Shack is offering me one for $10 with a contract renewal or $210 without. It is still cheaper than the CPT but I don't want to have any incompatibility issues.
Thanks guys for your responses
Thanks guys for your responses
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So all that needs to happen is to have the software upgraded to 13.2 ? then all will work correctly? Is there any part number or service bulletin I can tell them to review? My dealer has no idea ? and says that there is no retrofit available yet.
Thanks!
Jon
Thanks!
Jon
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Originally Posted by Hormazd' date='Oct 27 2004, 11:37 AM
So will any V60 work with the integrated eject box in lieu of the $530 CPT900? I am having a hard time finding a Verizon V60.? Radio Shack is offering me one for $10 with a contract renewal or $210 without.? It is still cheaper than the CPT but I don't want to have any incompatibility issues.
Thanks guys for your responses
Thanks guys for your responses
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Originally Posted by Guest' date='Oct 27 2004, 11:31 AM
[quote name='John W' date='Oct 27 2004, 11:07 AM']Hi - one question on all this.
If I DO NOT have Nav, will the phone, either BT or CPT9000 have voice activation?
If I DO NOT have Nav, will the phone, either BT or CPT9000 have voice activation?
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I think that you need Voice Command which is part of the Nav Option in the US.
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Originally Posted by Hormazd' date='Oct 27 2004, 11:37 AM
So will any V60 work with the integrated eject box in lieu of the $530 CPT900? I am having a hard time finding a Verizon V60.?? Radio Shack is offering me one for $10 with a contract renewal or $210 without.?? It is still cheaper than the CPT but I don't want to have any incompatibility issues.
Thanks guys for your responses
Thanks guys for your responses
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My experience: The Motorola V60i (Non CPT9000) did not work with the car.
Both CPT9000 work, I have the TDMA on ebay at the moment because I wanted GSM (Because my service provider only has GSM network) and when I bought the CPT9000 I did not know there was a GSM version of the CPT9000. The TDMA worked fine, even though I used it only for a few days with AT&T.
Voice recognition works OK even if you do not have NAV, but it only works for cell phone commands. The "Dial Name" command is super cool but I still have to record all the names and numbers (In the car) before it can identify them from my cell phone phonebook.
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Originally Posted by jzerden' date='Oct 27 2004, 11:41 AM
So all that needs to happen is to have the software upgraded to 13.2 ? then all will work correctly?? Is there any part number or service bulletin I can tell them to review? My dealer has no idea ? and says that there is no retrofit available yet.
Thanks!
Jon
Thanks!
Jon
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#109
Well, kudos to Bob Paduch at Motor Werks.. a true gentleman!!
I just hung up with him.. For those dealers, including mine, that say it can't be done, here's the skinny:
1. tech needs to hook fiber optic cable up. it's already there, just needs to connect it!
2. follow instructions on service bulletins
SIB # 841304
SIB # 841603
3. Bulletins above will state instructions for cars built 09/04 and later.. the catch is that there is no hardware difference from one year to the other.. it is in fac the software version. They need to load 13.3 in. If you have NAV, it may crash the CCC computer, he said.. so, some finegeling might be needed by the tech.
4. that's it.. tell you service center they can get all this info off of Centernet!
Now that I know EXACTLY how to do this, let's see if my dealer still tells me NO!
I just hung up with him.. For those dealers, including mine, that say it can't be done, here's the skinny:
1. tech needs to hook fiber optic cable up. it's already there, just needs to connect it!
2. follow instructions on service bulletins
SIB # 841304
SIB # 841603
3. Bulletins above will state instructions for cars built 09/04 and later.. the catch is that there is no hardware difference from one year to the other.. it is in fac the software version. They need to load 13.3 in. If you have NAV, it may crash the CCC computer, he said.. so, some finegeling might be needed by the tech.
4. that's it.. tell you service center they can get all this info off of Centernet!
Now that I know EXACTLY how to do this, let's see if my dealer still tells me NO!
#110
Originally Posted by Guest' date='Oct 27 2004, 12:27 PM
Plus you get better reception by using the shark fin antenna.? The reception was ever so slightly better with the hardwired cradle and Motorola/BMW Timeport Phone and exterior antenna in my 01 530.? At the time this was a dealer installed BMW accessory.? But my phone became obsolete with Cingular and I could not use it with their network.? So I had to buy a different phone which would not work with the hands free telephone system in my e39.? It is about trade offs.? The Bluetooth advantage is that you can change phones as they become obsolete.? And you have a more convenient solution.? One probably will need to? add a charger to my car so that I can keep it charging while in the car.? Another issue is audio quality.? I used the BT solution in my car today on my way to the office to talk with two of my employees.? They both said that the audio quality was marginal with the Bluetooth approach.? They liked the hard wired approach with my 01 530 better.? One person in my office said that the Bluetooth calls today sounded like a walkie talkie. Another person in my office said it sounded like an internet telephone call.? I may end up getting a cradle with hard wiring so that I can use the shark fin antenna. I am still evaluating my options.? In any event, I admire BMW for fixing the Bluetooth issue as a retrofit for 04 e60 owners.
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if it sounds crappy, no point in spending to do the upgrade.. why buy a TV if color looks poor? follow?