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Old 07-22-2009 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by craigm1841' post='950772' date='Jul 22 2009, 07:31 PM
I have a friend from England. She has nothing postive to say about the healtcare system there. matter of fact, she thinks it is horrible. she is an avid obama supporter too (its nauseating), and quite devistated she couldnt vote in the last election, as she only moved to the states a few years ago and hasnt become a citizen yet.
Then maybe I should say Germany vice Europe. My wife had IVF while we lived there. I came accross some of the finest doctors, all of whom went to school in the U.S. The cost for the procedure and the subsequent birth of my child? Nothing compared to what I woud have had to pay in the states. In fact - IVF isn't even covered by insurance in the U.S.
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Old 07-22-2009 | 03:44 PM
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-1000 x million. No one is scared of change. More scared about the bullshit hiding behind the "change" Obama hasnt changed anything. Get off the whole change slogan....its a bunch of bs.
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Old 07-22-2009 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Alpine White Girl' post='950782' date='Jul 22 2009, 07:44 PM
i know that my health insurance is going to cost me 310 every quarter. Is it expensive? Yes. Am i a young, healthy person? Yes. Am i going to pay for it? YES!!! Because accidents happen and i cant afford to pay a 50,000 dollar medical bill. I am going to be responsible and pay for something i need to have.

That's good to read, but you're missing the point.

The reality is there is no guarantee that you will be healthy and be able to pay for your health coverage tomorrow, or next week, or next year because "shit happens".
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Old 07-22-2009 | 04:04 PM
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I love all these political threads, but you know what - its pointless to talk about ANY of it before we can have politicians we can trust! Mr. Obama, any way you could implement that reform finally?
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Originally Posted by pukka' post='950790' date='Jul 22 2009, 04:57 PM
That's good to read, but you're missing the point.

The reality is there is no guarantee that you will be healthy and be able to pay for your health coverage tomorrow, or next week, or next year because "shit happens".
Right on both counts. Another point is that unless an employer or someone else is making up the difference, medical insurance at 310 per quarter really isn't going to provide very comprehensive or dependable coverage. No insurer is going to take significant risk on board for this level of premium.
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Originally Posted by swajames' post='950796' date='Jul 22 2009, 07:05 PM
Right on both counts. Another point is that unless an employer or someone else is making up the difference, medical insurance at 310 per quarter really isn't going to provide very comprehensive or dependable coverage. No insurer is going to take significant risk on board for this level of premium.
you can change your coverage. My deductible is 2000, so that is why my premium is so low. My boyfriends father sold insurance for 15 years with jackson national, lafayette life and security mutual. He wrote my policy, i know 100% i am covered past 2 grand. Like i said i bought mine in case of a freak accident. Major items covered. I pay for my regular checkups and doctor bills.

if i want health insurance then i will buy it. everyone else can do the same thing.
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Old 07-22-2009 | 04:15 PM
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I'm not gonna read all these posts, but haven't you guys learned. Arguing about politics/religion gets you no where.
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Originally Posted by Alpine White Girl' post='950670
I'm not gonna read all these posts, but haven't you guys learned. Arguing about politics/religion gets you no where.
Yea i know...its pointless to argue this but i seriously cant stand Obama and company.
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Old 07-22-2009 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Alpine White Girl' post='950800' date='Jul 22 2009, 05:12 PM
you can change your coverage. My deductible is 2000, so that is why my premium is so low. My boyfriends father sold insurance for 15 years with jackson national, lafayette life and security mutual. He wrote my policy, i know 100% i am covered past 2 grand. Like i said i bought mine in case of a freak accident. Major items covered. I pay for my regular checkups and doctor bills.

if i want health insurance then i will buy it. everyone else can do the same thing.
It's kind of strange to see the folks here, with pretty much all of us driving our 50K to 100K cars, talk about what people can do or should do with their money or how they just need to step up and pay for their medical bills or take out insurance. I really wish it were that simple, but it isn't.
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Old 07-22-2009 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by swajames' post='950898' date='Jul 22 2009, 08:09 PM
It's kind of strange to see the folks here, with pretty much all of us driving our 50K to 100K cars, talk about what people can do or should do with their money or how they just need to step up and pay for their medical bills or take out insurance. I really wish it were that simple, but it isn't.
Thats where your wrong my friend. I havent told ANYONE how to spend their money or what insurance to get. Life is about choices, picking the 60k benzo and not buying health insurance is a choice. DONT FUCKING CRY WHEN YOU CANT AFFORD YOUR MEDICAL BILLS!!! I understand there are a lot of people who are less fortunate and even through hard work and providing for their family still cant afford medical treatment. I feel sorry for these people but unfortunately life isnt fair! I will never tell anyone how to spend their money because its their money. Just like i dont need Obama telling me to pay for my health insurance through his great tax SCAM!!!
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