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09-23-2009, 11:34 AM
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I guess we're not the only ones that noticed the Pats best days are behind them:
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/1010751...time-has-passed
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/1010751...time-has-passed
09-23-2009, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Alpine White Girl' post='1015003' date='Sep 23 2009, 03:34 PM
He had one bad game and hes done?!? Wasnt it last year when peyton manning threw 6, COUNT EM 6 INTS against the Chargers?? Clearly one bad game doesnt mean Brady is done...people who are suggesting this are one of two things or both. 1. Idiots. 2. Looking for something to write a sports article on and they know anything with Tom Brady in it will get press.
tops of their class? By that statement you mean they are fortune it enough to have great defenses to make them look good. If we are talking about stats Big Ben averaged 203 yards passing last year. Trying to say Ben/Eli are anywhere close to Tom Brady/Peyton is a joke.
Super bowl mvps - see post #156. Eli cant throw a 12 yard out into a stiff wind. He sucks. The Giants are so stupid they are paying Eli more then Peyton makes
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Wishful thinking from the rest of the AFC. Im not even a pats fan but there is no denying Tom Brady > Big Ben and Eli combined.
tops of their class? By that statement you mean they are fortune it enough to have great defenses to make them look good. If we are talking about stats Big Ben averaged 203 yards passing last year. Trying to say Ben/Eli are anywhere close to Tom Brady/Peyton is a joke.
Super bowl mvps - see post #156. Eli cant throw a 12 yard out into a stiff wind. He sucks. The Giants are so stupid they are paying Eli more then Peyton makes
lol:Wishful thinking from the rest of the AFC. Im not even a pats fan but there is no denying Tom Brady > Big Ben and Eli combined.
ELI was MVP, he had to go to foxboro and BEAT poor little tom, then he had to go to big D and win on the road, then he had to go to Lambeau in subzero weather and BEAT bret and co, and then beat poor little tom for the SECOND time in the Super Bowl, all within a month while little tom was at the top of his career!!!
SOUNDS like he's moving in the right direction, and i'll be damned, but when Eli got the ball back in the 4th last sunday nite with only a few mins to go to win it, he surely looked like his older brother if you didnt catch it....Eli and Big Ben are in the future, Peyton is great, but he's at the latter part of his run, and tom's been too buzy with models to care about football anymore
09-23-2009, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by m630' post='1015037' date='Sep 23 2009, 01:19 PM
i do enjoy your passion, AWG!!! even if misguided and completely WRONG!!
ELI was MVP, he had to go to foxboro and BEAT poor little tom, then he had to go to big D and win on the road, then he had to go to Lambeau in subzero weather and BEAT bret and co, and then beat poor little tom for the SECOND time in the Super Bowl, all within a month while little tom was at the top of his career!!!
SOUNDS like he's moving in the right direction, and i'll be damned, but when Eli got the ball back in the 4th last sunday nite with only a few mins to go to win it, he surely looked like his older brother if you didnt catch it....Eli and Big Ben are in the future, Peyton is great, but he's at the latter part of his run, and tom's been too buzy with models to care about football anymore
ELI was MVP, he had to go to foxboro and BEAT poor little tom, then he had to go to big D and win on the road, then he had to go to Lambeau in subzero weather and BEAT bret and co, and then beat poor little tom for the SECOND time in the Super Bowl, all within a month while little tom was at the top of his career!!!
SOUNDS like he's moving in the right direction, and i'll be damned, but when Eli got the ball back in the 4th last sunday nite with only a few mins to go to win it, he surely looked like his older brother if you didnt catch it....Eli and Big Ben are in the future, Peyton is great, but he's at the latter part of his run, and tom's been too buzy with models to care about football anymore
Ben and Eli DO, in fact, enjoy great defenses - because they replenish through the draft (Steelers mantra: 2 contracts and done, no 3rd BIG contracts for aging players). The only hole in the Steelers armor is the O-line, which I can say was NOT addressed properly in the off-season. This, however, is not a problem Eli has - he has a great O-line, great RB's, great D - it takes a TEAM to win SB's no one QB will EVER be great enough to win one on his own. If you think Tommy boy did then please tell me in which SB did he play defense?
09-23-2009, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by m630' post='1015037' date='Sep 23 2009, 03:19 PM
i do enjoy your passion, AWG!!! even if misguided and completely WRONG!!
ELI was MVP, he had to go to foxboro and BEAT poor little tom, then he had to go to big D and win on the road, then he had to go to Lambeau in subzero weather and BEAT bret and co, and then beat poor little tom for the SECOND time in the Super Bowl, all within a month while little tom was at the top of his career!!!
SOUNDS like he's moving in the right direction, and i'll be damned, but when Eli got the ball back in the 4th last sunday nite with only a few mins to go to win it, he surely looked like his older brother if you didnt catch it....Eli and Big Ben are in the future, Peyton is great, but he's at the latter part of his run, and tom's been too buzy with models to care about football anymore
ELI was MVP, he had to go to foxboro and BEAT poor little tom, then he had to go to big D and win on the road, then he had to go to Lambeau in subzero weather and BEAT bret and co, and then beat poor little tom for the SECOND time in the Super Bowl, all within a month while little tom was at the top of his career!!!
SOUNDS like he's moving in the right direction, and i'll be damned, but when Eli got the ball back in the 4th last sunday nite with only a few mins to go to win it, he surely looked like his older brother if you didnt catch it....Eli and Big Ben are in the future, Peyton is great, but he's at the latter part of his run, and tom's been too buzy with models to care about football anymore
I will educate you on your own teams superbowl run. You went into Tampa and won, then Dallas, then Green Bay. You didnt beat the patriots twice. You lost at home in week 17 and then beat them in the Super Bowl. While it was a nice run through the playoffs to win the super bowl it had little to do with eli. The defense held Tampa to 14 points, Dallas to 17, Green bay to 20, and New England to 14. Throughout that playoff run Eli threw for over 250 yards ONCE. They won the superbowl on what might be luckiest play ever. The pass was terribly over thrown, David Tyree made the catch of his life and made Eli look good. That superbowl was won by the defense who held every team they faced under 21 points.
I understand your happy about Eli's performance against Dallas but dont come here tootin his horn and acting like he is better than Tom Brady. If you feel he is better than Brady atleast bring some correct information to the table to support your claim rather then posting junk.
Oh and a side note....while we are talking about playoff performances lets not forget about how good Eli looked last year at home against the Eagles. 15 for 29 for 169 yards and TWO ints. They lost their first playoff game last year at home and Eli SUCKED ASSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! Had you already forgotten about this game?? I can understand why because i remember watching that game and it was sickening.
If you want to continue this about Eli vs. Tom Brady i can go all day.
I enjoy your passion as well
09-23-2009, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by pjinca' post='1015043' date='Sep 23 2009, 03:28 PM
+1 not to mention Tommy Boy doesn't have the Defense HE enjoyed either anymore. No more Bruschi, Harrison, Seau, Seymour - all gone and what's left is old (see Wolfork, Vince). They have nothing but 32+ yo running backs and an aging O-Line, sorry but even Tommy Boy at his best can't make up for the deficits that exist now.
Ben and Eli DO, in fact, enjoy great defenses - because they replenish through the draft (Steelers mantra: 2 contracts and done, no 3rd BIG contracts for aging players). The only hole in the Steelers armor is the O-line, which I can say was NOT addressed properly in the off-season. This, however, is not a problem Eli has - he has a great O-line, great RB's, great D - it takes a TEAM to win SB's no one QB will EVER be great enough to win one on his own. If you think Tommy boy did then please tell me in which SB did he play defense?
Ben and Eli DO, in fact, enjoy great defenses - because they replenish through the draft (Steelers mantra: 2 contracts and done, no 3rd BIG contracts for aging players). The only hole in the Steelers armor is the O-line, which I can say was NOT addressed properly in the off-season. This, however, is not a problem Eli has - he has a great O-line, great RB's, great D - it takes a TEAM to win SB's no one QB will EVER be great enough to win one on his own. If you think Tommy boy did then please tell me in which SB did he play defense?
You guys are talking football with a girl and getting the treatment.....keep it comin' i love this.
EDIT: I knew they had another back who was young. Ben Jarvis Green-Ellis is 24. Maroney is also 24. You know whats sad...there crew of old guys is still better than I get hurt EVERY single year Willie Parker. I do like Mendenhall tho....
09-23-2009, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Alpine White Girl' post='1015080' date='Sep 23 2009, 05:22 PM
If you want to continue this.... i can go all day.
I enjoy your passion as well
I enjoy your passion as well
Btw, I can go all day and NITE!!!
09-23-2009, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by pjinca' post='1015121' date='Sep 23 2009, 05:15 PM
There's a reason why the saying goes: "Defense wins championships" not "tommy boy wins championships"
How come everyone keeps changing the subject when i bring the heat?
09-23-2009, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Alpine White Girl' post='1015179' date='Sep 23 2009, 07:46 PM
well tommy boy has more super bowl wins then any other active qb if im not mistaken
How come everyone keeps changing the subject when i bring the heat?
How come everyone keeps changing the subject when i bring the heat?
09-23-2009, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by porsche911targa' post='1015376' date='Sep 23 2009, 09:59 PM
AWG, if my wife ever leaves me, I wanna marry you...
My boyfriend wouldnt be too pleased with that but he hasnt got me a ring yet. You snooze ya lose.
He doesnt have the same love for Tom Brady that me and you share 