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Originally Posted by CWS530' post='939529' date='Jul 11 2009, 07:34 PM
Actually, no. This article was an update to the previous links provided and contained further damning quotes. I suggest you read your own posts prior to referring to someone else's as redundant.
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Originally Posted by swajames' post='939569' date='Jul 11 2009, 09:15 PM
As I said in my post, it's what drivers think that counts. The successful ones all think they are the best in the business. As do successful individuals in any walk of life.
Now to what drivers say. With respect to Weber's claim, if you think he means it, that's up to you. F1 drivers are media trained and most are reasonably media savvy and know how to say the right things - which is why F1 post race interviews are so bland and generic. Some of us, of course, seem to do a better job than others at reading between the lines...
Now to what drivers say. With respect to Weber's claim, if you think he means it, that's up to you. F1 drivers are media trained and most are reasonably media savvy and know how to say the right things - which is why F1 post race interviews are so bland and generic. Some of us, of course, seem to do a better job than others at reading between the lines...
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Also what they may think of themselves is fine... but to come out and say it in public... well that in my book shows crass. Lets put it in perspective. If Senna said he was the best in the interview, I would give it to him. Fine I say.
When Jenson says it, I look back at this career, realise he took ages to chalk up his FIRST win, then years of "hanging" about and when he finally wins again in the bestest car. Hmm... sorry but claiming to be greatest driver out there seems arrogant.
Lets see what the greatest does for the championship. Its only his to lose and one thing I know about F1, only after the flag drops.... !!
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Originally Posted by pigapumbu' post='939572' date='Jul 11 2009, 03:20 PM
Not to start a war here, but what further damning quotes are you refering to, not already mentioned in the two articles I posted. I am getting a headache reading your posted article and the two I did. Cant see whats so new or different
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"I did not put Hitler forward as a positive example, but simply noted that, before his appalling crimes, he acted successfully against unemployment and the economic crisis," Ecclestone was quoted as saying....
It's a forum and posts and topics build over time. If your only response to a post is that it's "already been discussed," then we should end the thread. I'm sure if you go back 36 pages you can find a reference to something currently is being discussed. Spoonface alone proves that.
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Originally Posted by pigapumbu' post='939576' date='Jul 11 2009, 01:32 PM
Or maybe he was trying to play mind games with his younger (and better in my opinion) team-mate. There is Vettel trying his best to go out and race to win the championship and Webber is just throwing a wet towel over everything. ![Smile](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/smile.gif)
Also what they may think of themselves is fine... but to come out and say it in public... well that in my book shows crass. Lets put it in perspective. If Senna said he was the best in the interview, I would give it to him. Fine I say.
When Jenson says it, I look back at this career, realise he took ages to chalk up his FIRST win, then years of "hanging" about and when he finally wins again in the bestest car. Hmm... sorry but claiming to be greatest driver out there seems arrogant.
Lets see what the greatest does for the championship. Its only his to lose and one thing I know about F1, only after the flag drops.... !!
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Also what they may think of themselves is fine... but to come out and say it in public... well that in my book shows crass. Lets put it in perspective. If Senna said he was the best in the interview, I would give it to him. Fine I say.
When Jenson says it, I look back at this career, realise he took ages to chalk up his FIRST win, then years of "hanging" about and when he finally wins again in the bestest car. Hmm... sorry but claiming to be greatest driver out there seems arrogant.
Lets see what the greatest does for the championship. Its only his to lose and one thing I know about F1, only after the flag drops.... !!
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Originally Posted by swajames' post='939505' date='Jul 11 2009, 10:47 AM
Every F1 driver should be saying exactly the same thing. If you don't feel that way, you have absolutely no business being in a driver's seat in F1. F1 is absolutely no place for those with a shred of humility, modesty or any doubts whatsoever about their ability. There are no truly humble drivers at the pinnacle of any motorsport series, and there never will be. History will of course be the ultimate judge of the relative merits of each driver - but that quote could have and should have come from any F1 driver, past or present.
The kid always has a huge smile on his face, you can tell it isn't fake either.
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Good race today and it wasn't just about Braun and Red Bull fighting it out ![Smile](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/smile.gif)
As a Brit, it would have been nice to see how Hamilton and the "new" McLaren did in the race and not just the start straight
I think they need to have a look at the KERS system, it would appear to not just feed into the engine, but also the drivers helmet! Ah well, maybe next race.
Webber's reaction after the race over the team radio said it all. Nothing trained or arrogant about that, just pure adrenalin and joy. Good on him.
As for Vettel, he's a great genuine guy, but I think that will unforetunately change over time. I still follow F1 on German TV and its 50% F1 and 50% the Vettel Show. The media attention / pressures will grow, and his answers and openess will no doubt descrease as a consequence. That said, I hope I am wrong and he can stay the way he is![Thumbsup](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/thumbsup.gif)
As for the arguement about who's the greatest driver, well that's obvious, its me of course
Joking apart, I agree with the others who talk about the confidence of the driver being crucial. The way these cars are designed and in turn the way they need to be driven is about the absolute maximum by taking things to the absolute limit. Without the confidence to do that, you can't hit that limit and in turn get to the maximum. That's what (should) still make F1 the ultimate in motor racing.
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As a Brit, it would have been nice to see how Hamilton and the "new" McLaren did in the race and not just the start straight
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Webber's reaction after the race over the team radio said it all. Nothing trained or arrogant about that, just pure adrenalin and joy. Good on him.
As for Vettel, he's a great genuine guy, but I think that will unforetunately change over time. I still follow F1 on German TV and its 50% F1 and 50% the Vettel Show. The media attention / pressures will grow, and his answers and openess will no doubt descrease as a consequence. That said, I hope I am wrong and he can stay the way he is
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As for the arguement about who's the greatest driver, well that's obvious, its me of course
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Joking apart, I agree with the others who talk about the confidence of the driver being crucial. The way these cars are designed and in turn the way they need to be driven is about the absolute maximum by taking things to the absolute limit. Without the confidence to do that, you can't hit that limit and in turn get to the maximum. That's what (should) still make F1 the ultimate in motor racing.
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Originally Posted by xBMWx' post='940014' date='Jul 12 2009, 05:29 PM
Good race today and it wasn't just about Braun and Red Bull fighting it out ![Smile](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/smile.gif)
As a Brit, it would...
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Congrats also to Vettel, of course, Red Bull and Adrian Newey but also to Massa - a great drive,
Nico did a great race also.
If Sutil would have been a bit more smart, Force India would have got their first points.
About Kimi I have no comment, the car sucked, but Heikki did the whole race.
With a 0.8 slower car than the front grid but luckily with the KERS.
What happened to Lewis rear tire?
Lewis did have a very fast car.
Alonso did the fastest lap in the race!
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Well done Mark. He bumped Rubens, paid the penalty, and still won.
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Originally Posted by Ricracing' post='940187' date='Jul 12 2009, 09:55 PM
If Sutil would have been a bit more smart, Force India would have got their first points.
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