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05-12-2009, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by CWS530' post='875001' date='May 11 2009, 11:35 PM
Formula 1 Math:
Brawn + Schumi + Rubens + Team Orders = Schumi Wins
Brawn + Jenson + Rubens + Team Orders = Jenson Wins
Brawn + Schumi + Rubens + Team Orders = Schumi Wins
Brawn + Jenson + Rubens + Team Orders = Jenson Wins
But it would be nice if he wins 1st.
05-12-2009, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by AlexFW' post='876393' date='May 13 2009, 03:03 AM
I am not already watching at F1 anymore...
Nobody would see F1 anymore without Ferrari
Nobody would see F1 anymore without Ferrari
05-12-2009, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Patrick E61' post='876160' date='May 12 2009, 11:52 PM
That was actually yesterday's breaking news...
Red Bull and Toyota have also said the same. BMW Sauber isn't far away from the same conclusion.
Red Bull and Toyota have also said the same. BMW Sauber isn't far away from the same conclusion.
05-12-2009, 06:18 PM
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Some memories are pretty short on here... Ironically it was Ferrari's ongoing penchant for taking Max and Bernie's 30 pieces of silver that scuppered the best chance the F1 teams had in recent years to take top tier motor racing to the next level. Ferrari broke ranks with the other top teams who were members of the GPWC consortium (the breakaway racing series comprising all top F1 constructors at the time) when it unilaterally signed the extension to the Concorde Agreement - effectively undermining the other teams and the intention of the GPWC to set up an independent series to effectively replace F1. The Concorde Agreement was at the heart of the GPWC's desire to get out of F1 as it revenue splits and has, of course, been the primary reason for the greater financial rewards enjoyed by Ferrari compared to those received by the other top teams.
So. Ferrari can't get it both ways. The GPWC would have been the ideal platform for Ferrari to have the technical and budgetary freedom they apparently crave, but they took the man's money when it suited and now they're crying foul when it doesn't. And, frankly, it's a situation they largely created.
So. Ferrari can't get it both ways. The GPWC would have been the ideal platform for Ferrari to have the technical and budgetary freedom they apparently crave, but they took the man's money when it suited and now they're crying foul when it doesn't. And, frankly, it's a situation they largely created.
05-12-2009, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Iceman' post='876721' date='May 13 2009, 03:57 AM
Not for CNN, they sent the breaking news minutes before I posted. 
05-12-2009, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Patrick E61' post='876899' date='May 13 2009, 12:42 PM
Don't read CNN for motorsports news!
http--www.planet-f1.com-
05-13-2009, 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by swajames' post='876768' date='May 13 2009, 03:18 AM
Some memories are pretty short on here... Ironically it was Ferrari's ongoing penchant for taking Max and Bernie's 30 pieces of silver that scuppered the best chance the F1 teams had in recent years to take top tier motor racing to the next level. Ferrari broke ranks with the other top teams who were members of the GPWC consortium (the breakaway racing series comprising all top F1 constructors at the time) when it unilaterally signed the extension to the Concorde Agreement - effectively undermining the other teams and the intention of the GPWC to set up an independent series to effectively replace F1. The Concorde Agreement was at the heart of the GPWC's desire to get out of F1 as it revenue splits and has, of course, been the primary reason for the greater financial rewards enjoyed by Ferrari compared to those received by the other top teams.
So. Ferrari can't get it both ways. The GPWC would have been the ideal platform for Ferrari to have the technical and budgetary freedom they apparently crave, but they took the man's money when it suited and now they're crying foul when it doesn't. And, frankly, it's a situation they largely created.
So. Ferrari can't get it both ways. The GPWC would have been the ideal platform for Ferrari to have the technical and budgetary freedom they apparently crave, but they took the man's money when it suited and now they're crying foul when it doesn't. And, frankly, it's a situation they largely created.
However, if i was some other promoter of racing (and I am sure there are few in USA), maybe they could strike up some racing series over here and woo the major players from F1 into their series. Frankly as a racing fan, my loyalty is to the racing teams, racing drivers and racing. It has never been about supporting FORMULA ONE. F1 can go to hell for all I care but so long there is good exciting racing by teams like Ferrari, BMW, Renault (etc) who strive for the BEST and do it at all costs, then they will always have my time.
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And now Renault has announced that it will quit Formula One if the FIA introduces these budget rules for 2010.
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Originally Posted by pigapumbu' post='877039' date='May 13 2009, 06:54 AM
However, if i was some other promoter of racing (and I am sure there are few in USA), maybe they could strike up some racing series over here and woo the major players from F1 into their series. Frankly as a racing fan, my loyalty is to the racing teams, racing drivers and racing. It has never been about supporting FORMULA ONE. F1 can go to hell for all I care but so long there is good exciting racing by teams like Ferrari, BMW, Renault (etc) who strive for the BEST and do it at all costs, then they will always have my time.
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Originally Posted by pigapumbu' post='877039' date='May 13 2009, 03:54 AM
Actually I disaree. The GPWC was all done to get more money from Bernie and all the teams went along with it. brenie knew it just too well, so did we. Hence when the right time came about, the short-one just up'd his offering and that was it. GPWC was never really in the cards.
However, if i was some other promoter of racing (and I am sure there are few in USA), maybe they could strike up some racing series over here and woo the major players from F1 into their series. Frankly as a racing fan, my loyalty is to the racing teams, racing drivers and racing. It has never been about supporting FORMULA ONE. F1 can go to hell for all I care but so long there is good exciting racing by teams like Ferrari, BMW, Renault (etc) who strive for the BEST and do it at all costs, then they will always have my time.
cheers
However, if i was some other promoter of racing (and I am sure there are few in USA), maybe they could strike up some racing series over here and woo the major players from F1 into their series. Frankly as a racing fan, my loyalty is to the racing teams, racing drivers and racing. It has never been about supporting FORMULA ONE. F1 can go to hell for all I care but so long there is good exciting racing by teams like Ferrari, BMW, Renault (etc) who strive for the BEST and do it at all costs, then they will always have my time.
cheers