seoulman

Well... the cameras and the majority of lenses are black, but the white telephoto lenses are the ones that are really sexy... The L lenses have red trim on the barrel of the lens... And as for a sunroof, will a bright and vibrant 3" LCD on the back of the camera work for ya?

530ISPORT

LOL.. I THINK THAT SUM`S IT UP FOR ME....

seoulman

So... are you sold on a Canon DSLR with the L lenses?

pinguhk

not a big fan but I go for fast cars.
Just found out the type V is out and cost a bome
http://www.gzjkshop.com/html/product_1078.html

seoulman

I just wish Canon and/or Nikon would make faster cameras with higher image quality for reasonable money.

pinguhk

they will soon.
I see that canon upgrade there line so soon
just look at the 300D to 450D only 3 years and they got out 4 models.
like 40D only came out about 18 months and now a new 1 50D which you have
I bet they bring a 60D in a years time

seoulman

The 40D came out about 12 months ago. They'll probably shorten life cycles of cameras until they find it no longer economically viable to develop new products so quickly and/or hit a ceiling in terms of usable technology and speed by the consumer. Areas where I see companies like Canon and Nikon improving is white balance, noise level for high ISO, buffer size, buffer to memory write speed, faster/more stable continuous shooting, and the addition of HD video to more models.

I'm not about to get into the 'newest and most features' camera race. I'm happy with my 50D now. I don't need video, but as my photography skills improve, I my want some of the improvements, but I don't think any really noticeable gains will happen over a 12 month span.

On another note, this has become quite a long thread! I guess there are members that are as passionate about photography and photographic gear as they are about their cars!

Richard in NC

I myself am still quite happy with the D200. That is quite different than the past where I had bought 6 cameras in 10 years (Nikon N70, Sony Mavica, Nikon CP 800, Nikon CP 5700, Nikon D100, Nikon D200).
The D200 is already more camera than I need, has plenty of speed (5fps) and plenty of buffer (40 jpg, 15 raw IIRC). It's plenty sharp and high MP for blow ups. Its only down side compared to the newest cameras is noisey high ISO (1000+). Only twice in 2 1/2 years have I really needed that (pre-dawn photos and at a night baseball game).

The D300 has lots of little improvements but isn't worth the upgrade cost, especially now that a local used camera dealer has closed up, making it harder to trade in the D200. The D700 or D3 would be awesome but are pricey and my current lenses and subjects are more suited to DX format. The D90 even has some advantages but it has some disadvantaqes too.

Although, I might wear out the D200 and need to trade up anyways. I have already taken 18,000 pictures with the D200. Thank goodness its shutter is rated to 100,000.

seoulman

Your Nikon D200 is a great camera! When I first started looking into digital photography, I was serious deliberating between the Canon 40D and the Nikon D200. Some even argue that CCD sensors are better for image quality than CMOS. I think you can hold onto the D200 for awhile longer until you feel the need to upgrade.

UUronL

Sorry, been away a while.


Regarding RAW converters.

I like DPP the best for Canon personally. The latest revision is quite nice, if you haven't tried it in a while, check it out. For Nikon, nothing beats Nikon Capture. Period.


Regarding lenses.

If you aren't shooting a full frame camera, I don't really see the point in the 24-105 for the Canon. The 17-55 f2.8 EF-S is stellar. For Nikon, the 18-70DX is killer - I love mine.

D70, 18-70DX



The other alternative is the 18-200DX. Again, costly - but far better than any of the other kit lenses. While the 70-200 VR is a killer lens, I have never had issues hand-holding with my 80-200 f/2.8. The model I have can be purchased new for about $800 and it's pro-build. Just a thought. This is a handheld 100% crop with that lens (zoomed). Shot with my D70.




Regarding FPS.

I don't get this at all. Max shutter speed captures motion, not a blaze of shutter releases. Pick your moment, and 4fps should be plenty. My D70 shoots 1/8000, as does my 5D. What more do you need if you're not a professional sports shooter?


Anyone care about speedlights and lighting? If so, there are several real differences to consider.

Canon isn't progressive when it comes to wireless flash-control on the camera body. My old D70 had this in 2004. The new 5D Mk II doesn't even have this yet. However, you can control flash groups wirelessly from a Canon speedlight (Nikon permits this too). Also, x-sync is moderately important depending on the type of shooting that you do. Even with high-speed sync, some cameras can't get the shutter curtains out of the way fast enough and you see them in the shot. The D70 was an interesting beast - it had a hybrid shutter, so at high speeds it was electronic - blanking the CCD. By putting a little piece of tape over one of the hotshoe pickups, you could make the camera sync at up to 1/8000!

Canon does however have a standard PC-sync terminal on-body for traditional lighting systems, which can be helpful if you're a serious lighting person. Again though, not a huge deal since the Nikon speedlights have the PC-sync terminal.


Anyway, despite all of this, I find it easier to get pleasing flash photography with my Canon gear, although I started initially with the Nikon system. (the first shot above was lit from the side diagonally with wireless SB-800)