E60 550i Dyno w/ AFE, w/ stock, w/ stock + RPi
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Originally Posted by B-car fanatic' post='694419' date='Oct 15 2008, 08:55 PM
american express dispute if they refuse a return
if you have amex that is
if you have amex that is
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Don't punish the vendor, punish the manufacturer.
AFE lied to their vendors and their customers, well they lied as of what we know now, and they haven't done or said anything to change that.
AFE lied to their vendors and their customers, well they lied as of what we know now, and they haven't done or said anything to change that.
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Originally Posted by r1racer' post='694515' date='Oct 15 2008, 11:17 PM
If you dispute it charge I would get the crap end of it ![Frown](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/sad.gif)
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I say do NOT do a dispute. Shafting one another while the Manufacturer laughs all the way to the bank is not the solution.
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Originally Posted by EM_5' post='694522' date='Oct 15 2008, 11:29 PM
Yes, this is true. But this is almost like a zero sum game... Manufacturer lies to vendor and customer, they make money. Vendor acts as an (unknowing) agent, makes money. Customer gets shafted, ends up with bunk product and loses out on money. Punishing the vendor is bad.... punishing the customer is worse. Since this is community, and the vendor has done the right thing immediately (contacting the manufacturer and taking the item off their site), Vendor and Customer can work together to get a resolution from the Manufacturer.
I say do NOT do a dispute. Shafting one another while the Manufacturer laughs all the way to the bank is not the solution.
I say do NOT do a dispute. Shafting one another while the Manufacturer laughs all the way to the bank is not the solution.
I have emailed them and left messages to respond to the thread, but no answer. Also, for the RPI vs AFE ///M's they haven't responded to that as well. I will keep my products off my website!
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The manufacturer should be the one paying, not the vendors. Be patient people, this will get sorted out...
Someone should go talk to AFE in person and see what they have to say... (of course someone who lives nearby
) Would contacting the BBB do anything, help? AFE makeing false claims, selling a fraudlent product, poor customer service so forth...
Someone should go talk to AFE in person and see what they have to say... (of course someone who lives nearby
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Originally Posted by tbal' post='694525' date='Oct 15 2008, 11:36 PM
Someone should go talk to AFE in person and see what they have to say... (of course someone who lives nearby
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AFE WHERE ARE YOU!?
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Originally Posted by r1racer' post='694528' date='Oct 15 2008, 11:45 PM
ANYWAYS...the head guy of AFE Nick said that the BEST way is to get RPI's ///M5 and AFE's ///M5 and have a run....GUARANTEED that the AFE will beat it against the stock RPI with scoops/BMC filter. I have tried to set up the race and NOTHING from them.
AFE WHERE ARE YOU!?![Whistling](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/whistling.gif)
AFE WHERE ARE YOU!?
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Seeing the distrought look on a fellow members face after the results kind of made us all feel cheated. He paid for the intakes, he paid for the install and dyno runs. He paid to have Dinan gut the aFe's and bought another brand. Our member even drove the car around for a week until he could not stand it anymore and paid Dinan a visit. Yes, he was an RPI scoops/BMC filter guy pre-aFe... and my best guess of why he went Dinan is because no one wants to throw away money just to get back to where he/she was. He wanted something different after this ordeal instead of just taking the shaft and going back the way he was. Humans are creatures like this.
Running a "stock" E60 with BMC/Scoops/Charcoal Delete against a aFe only E60 on the highway can prove something, but leaves many more questions in its wake. Production variances between motors, driver skill, is-that-car-really-stock (ECU/Pulley/3.91 Diff... etc) can come into question. With that being said... my money is on the Ram Air Setup [with the weaker motor and bad driver]. Better yet... my money is on the total stocker with Charcoal Delete. If we can verify both test mules from something like respected board members, I'll wager a lil something on it... where it is legal to wager, of course...
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Originally Posted by r1racer' post='694528' date='Oct 16 2008, 02:45 AM
Oh I have. My sales guy, one of the head guys, and the R&D specialist all came out to greet me. This was on Monday and they were pissed I took off all their products and that I didn't give them a chance to respond. I sent them emails and voicemails with no calls so I drove up there (15 - 20 miles). Pretty much they were saying that RPI is another competitor and they have seen this before. He said that the dyno results will always vary, but that they GUARANTEE the products make power. ANYWAYS...the head guy of AFE Nick said that the BEST way is to get RPI's ///M5 and AFE's ///M5 and have a run....GUARANTEED that the AFE will beat it against the stock RPI with scoops/BMC filter. I have tried to set up the race and NOTHING from them.
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AFE WHERE ARE YOU!?
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Horrible. This is why I love this forum. I can see what has happened to other people and not make the same mistake. I am sure you can all get refunds. They are going to end up discontinuing these P.O.S....I see Trinity has stopped selling them too.
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