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Going to sound like a complete noob, but wanna make sure im right/get my facts straight if im wrong
but i have a 07 550i auto non-smg(
) so no sports button
the car still acts as if in sports mode all the time?
and there would be no reason for me to attach the wire to make a sports button
pretty sure the car has the sport package based on wheels/steering wheel/seats
would apprieate confirmation/correction as ive only had the car for 2 weeks(previous owner was an idiot)
but have been learning alot about these cars thanks to this forum and a couple others so thanks
but i have a 07 550i auto non-smg(
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the car still acts as if in sports mode all the time?
and there would be no reason for me to attach the wire to make a sports button
pretty sure the car has the sport package based on wheels/steering wheel/seats
would apprieate confirmation/correction as ive only had the car for 2 weeks(previous owner was an idiot)
but have been learning alot about these cars thanks to this forum and a couple others so thanks
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Going to sound like a complete noob, but wanna make sure im right/get my facts straight if im wrong
but i have a 07 550i auto non-smg(
) so no sports button
the car still acts as if in sports mode all the time?
and there would be no reason for me to attach the wire to make a sports button
pretty sure the car has the sport package based on wheels/steering wheel/seats
would apprieate confirmation/correction as ive only had the car for 2 weeks(previous owner was an idiot)
but have been learning alot about these cars thanks to this forum and a couple others so thanks![Big Grin](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/biggrin.gif)
but i have a 07 550i auto non-smg(
![Frown](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/sad.gif)
the car still acts as if in sports mode all the time?
and there would be no reason for me to attach the wire to make a sports button
pretty sure the car has the sport package based on wheels/steering wheel/seats
would apprieate confirmation/correction as ive only had the car for 2 weeks(previous owner was an idiot)
but have been learning alot about these cars thanks to this forum and a couple others so thanks
![Big Grin](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/biggrin.gif)
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Use the below vin decoder with your vin number to determine what options were fitted during assembly.
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as to my other questions, since no sports button the settings are always on?(im assuming so)
and if i did the button install could i switch settings to normal, not that i would want to just curious.
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My Ride: Sold: 545i, sport package, cold weather, 6MT
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Thanks, so after looking up and comparing, it is a sport model as i thought ![Thumbsup](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/thumbsup.gif)
as to my other questions, since no sports button the settings are always on?(im assuming so)
and if i did the button install could i switch settings to normal, not that i would want to just curious.
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as to my other questions, since no sports button the settings are always on?(im assuming so)
and if i did the button install could i switch settings to normal, not that i would want to just curious.
The sport package is primarily associated with things like sport seats, bigger wheels, suspension modifications, etc. It doesn't effect the sport driving mode, so you are not driving around in "sport" mode.
It's an easy, low-cost mod to do and totally worth it.
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Thanks, so after looking up and comparing, it is a sport model as i thought ![Thumbsup](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/thumbsup.gif)
as to my other questions, since no sports button the settings are always on?(im assuming so)
and if i did the button install could i switch settings to normal, not that i would want to just curious.
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as to my other questions, since no sports button the settings are always on?(im assuming so)
and if i did the button install could i switch settings to normal, not that i would want to just curious.
In your case I believe all the button will do is turn the "sport" light on and change gears at a higher RPM in auto mode.
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Thanks and that will be done this weekend!!!!
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edit: i think it might help with throttle responsivness too but not 100% sure, will install and see if i can feel a difference
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For the LCI guys out there, there could be another way to activate SPORT mode easily.
I'm not sure if anyone has tried this but it seems that we may be able to activate the SPORT mode directly from the shifter ECU since there is a blank spot for a 8 pin connection that can be found on both the standard AT shifter ECU and the SAT shifter ECU. On the SAT ECU, this is where you would plug in the BMW OEM SPORT button so I'm assuming it should work on the standard shift ECU as well?
Currently I have the standard shifter ECU and I have flashed my EGS to SAT so I get the better shifts and S1, S2, S3 etc displayed on the dash.
I have activated the SPORT mode a custom built button via pins 7 & 9 in the glovebox ECU.
I have also coded the KOMBI so that SPORT appears on the dash when it is activated.
The car is much more alive in SPORT mode and the gear changes are amazing however I want to be able to install the OEM SPORT button near the gear shifter (I don't care about changing to the SAT shifter).
Will I be able to achieve this if I change the gear selector cover to the SAT cover (to accommodate the SPORT button) and install the SPORT button by plugging it directly into the 8 pins on the shifter ECU? Let me know if anyone has tried this. If you have the OEM SPORT button then this would be a very easy experiment (I wish I had one to try!)
Also if anyone wants to install a generic SPORT button directly near the shifter then the shifter ECU connection would be the ideal spot to activate SPORT mode since you won't need to run any cables from the glovebox. We just need to identify the function of each of the 8 pins.
I'm not sure if anyone has tried this but it seems that we may be able to activate the SPORT mode directly from the shifter ECU since there is a blank spot for a 8 pin connection that can be found on both the standard AT shifter ECU and the SAT shifter ECU. On the SAT ECU, this is where you would plug in the BMW OEM SPORT button so I'm assuming it should work on the standard shift ECU as well?
Currently I have the standard shifter ECU and I have flashed my EGS to SAT so I get the better shifts and S1, S2, S3 etc displayed on the dash.
I have activated the SPORT mode a custom built button via pins 7 & 9 in the glovebox ECU.
I have also coded the KOMBI so that SPORT appears on the dash when it is activated.
The car is much more alive in SPORT mode and the gear changes are amazing however I want to be able to install the OEM SPORT button near the gear shifter (I don't care about changing to the SAT shifter).
Will I be able to achieve this if I change the gear selector cover to the SAT cover (to accommodate the SPORT button) and install the SPORT button by plugging it directly into the 8 pins on the shifter ECU? Let me know if anyone has tried this. If you have the OEM SPORT button then this would be a very easy experiment (I wish I had one to try!)
Also if anyone wants to install a generic SPORT button directly near the shifter then the shifter ECU connection would be the ideal spot to activate SPORT mode since you won't need to run any cables from the glovebox. We just need to identify the function of each of the 8 pins.
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For the LCI guys out there, there could be another way to activate SPORT mode easily.
I'm not sure if anyone has tried this but it seems that we may be able to activate the SPORT mode directly from the shifter ECU since there is a blank spot for a 8 pin connection that can be found on both the standard AT shifter ECU and the SAT shifter ECU. On the SAT ECU, this is where you would plug in the BMW OEM SPORT button so I'm assuming it should work on the standard shift ECU as well?
Currently I have the standard shifter ECU and I have flashed my EGS to SAT so I get the better shifts and S1, S2, S3 etc displayed on the dash.
I have activated the SPORT mode a custom built button via pins 7 & 9 in the glovebox ECU.
I have also coded the KOMBI so that SPORT appears on the dash when it is activated.
The car is much more alive in SPORT mode and the gear changes are amazing however I want to be able to install the OEM SPORT button near the gear shifter (I don't care about changing to the SAT shifter).
Will I be able to achieve this if I change the gear selector cover to the SAT cover (to accommodate the SPORT button) and install the SPORT button by plugging it directly into the 8 pins on the shifter ECU? Let me know if anyone has tried this. If you have the OEM SPORT button then this would be a very easy experiment (I wish I had one to try!)
Also if anyone wants to install a generic SPORT button directly near the shifter then the shifter ECU connection would be the ideal spot to activate SPORT mode since you won't need to run any cables from the glovebox. We just need to identify the function of each of the 8 pins.
I'm not sure if anyone has tried this but it seems that we may be able to activate the SPORT mode directly from the shifter ECU since there is a blank spot for a 8 pin connection that can be found on both the standard AT shifter ECU and the SAT shifter ECU. On the SAT ECU, this is where you would plug in the BMW OEM SPORT button so I'm assuming it should work on the standard shift ECU as well?
Currently I have the standard shifter ECU and I have flashed my EGS to SAT so I get the better shifts and S1, S2, S3 etc displayed on the dash.
I have activated the SPORT mode a custom built button via pins 7 & 9 in the glovebox ECU.
I have also coded the KOMBI so that SPORT appears on the dash when it is activated.
The car is much more alive in SPORT mode and the gear changes are amazing however I want to be able to install the OEM SPORT button near the gear shifter (I don't care about changing to the SAT shifter).
Will I be able to achieve this if I change the gear selector cover to the SAT cover (to accommodate the SPORT button) and install the SPORT button by plugging it directly into the 8 pins on the shifter ECU? Let me know if anyone has tried this. If you have the OEM SPORT button then this would be a very easy experiment (I wish I had one to try!)
Also if anyone wants to install a generic SPORT button directly near the shifter then the shifter ECU connection would be the ideal spot to activate SPORT mode since you won't need to run any cables from the glovebox. We just need to identify the function of each of the 8 pins.
You have to solder in the pins (notice your pin holes are unoccupied), and only early (I think 2008 and 2009) shifters have the solder points for the pins. Newer boards did away with them.
There are also additional components required (some transistors and capacitors IIRC).
Finally, the software on the GWS module is different, and a standard D-CAN cable is unable to flash it due to a firmware bug (it bricks if you try). There is fixed firmware out there, but flashing that to the cable isn't trivial for most people.
If you're not doing the full SAT shifter retrofit, it's easier to just leave it the way you have it. You could probably tap the OEM button into the pins you have your generic button plugged into. However, the SAT trim won't accommodate the standard shifter (it's meant to have the SAT shift boot clipped into it).
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Does the $2TB SAT mode works on 2007 LCI?
If not, how about simple SPORT BUTTON with the KOMBI coding to show the "Sport" on cluster?
If not, how about simple SPORT BUTTON with the KOMBI coding to show the "Sport" on cluster?