the way E60 was meant to be
12-01-2012, 07:03 AM
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Take a step back and review to make sure it is making sense ...
The right diagram is the BMW standard WDS schematic ... the lower part that has pin #7 & #9 clearly stated A169 (Center Console Switch) which make sense due to the location and if you search all over A169 is the Center Console Switch = the switch box itself.
As I mentioned it before BMW uses signal not an on/off on their wiring so when you short the 2 contacts on the Center Console Switch box then Center Console Switch send the signal to those boxes behind the glove box ... so unless we now what kind of signal the Center Console Switch send to those control boxes doing it directly on those boxes won't do anything.
Or let see if we look at from another view to maybe make it more sense ... on the real thing (the car that may come factory equiped dunno somewhere) the FDC (sport) button has wiring that goes to the plug on the back of the A169 the Center Console Switch which what the right diagram laid out you'll find no indication anywhere that the wires from the FDC (sport button) goes directly to any control boxes behind the glove box.
The right diagram is the BMW standard WDS schematic ... the lower part that has pin #7 & #9 clearly stated A169 (Center Console Switch) which make sense due to the location and if you search all over A169 is the Center Console Switch = the switch box itself.
As I mentioned it before BMW uses signal not an on/off on their wiring so when you short the 2 contacts on the Center Console Switch box then Center Console Switch send the signal to those boxes behind the glove box ... so unless we now what kind of signal the Center Console Switch send to those control boxes doing it directly on those boxes won't do anything.
Or let see if we look at from another view to maybe make it more sense ... on the real thing (the car that may come factory equiped dunno somewhere) the FDC (sport) button has wiring that goes to the plug on the back of the A169 the Center Console Switch which what the right diagram laid out you'll find no indication anywhere that the wires from the FDC (sport button) goes directly to any control boxes behind the glove box.
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12-01-2012, 12:16 PM
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Just did this mod, I must say, oh my!
This is something I'm completely recommending for anyone with any of the E60 series BMW's.
The transmission shifts are oh so much more aggressive, and the throttle is just oh so much more responsive, heck, the steering feels great!
Just as a couple of notes, when I did this, I used took the pins out of a fan connector that looks like:
http://www.allpinouts.org/images/6/6...b_fan_3pin.jpg
The pins are a bit wide for the socket, but once they go in they fit.
I used a momentary push button switch I picked up from Radioshack, and soldered/heatshrinked the wire onto my switch.
When you're pulling out your entire trim, there WILL be a lot of force necessary to pull out certain areas. I had trouble with the bottom of the trim (where the DTC button is), and in the middle between the lower area and climate control.
For the bottom, I bent a piece of aluminum in a 90 degree angle, stuck it under there, and pulled hard. It worked.
For the middle, I grabbed the top of the climate control on each side and pulled like mad, they came out.
For the trim itself (the long piece), I used a old ID card of mine to wedge in, that worked perfectly without scratches.
I really really suggest you do this, it is an absolutely amazing mod!
This is something I'm completely recommending for anyone with any of the E60 series BMW's.
The transmission shifts are oh so much more aggressive, and the throttle is just oh so much more responsive, heck, the steering feels great!
Just as a couple of notes, when I did this, I used took the pins out of a fan connector that looks like:
http://www.allpinouts.org/images/6/6...b_fan_3pin.jpg
The pins are a bit wide for the socket, but once they go in they fit.
I used a momentary push button switch I picked up from Radioshack, and soldered/heatshrinked the wire onto my switch.
When you're pulling out your entire trim, there WILL be a lot of force necessary to pull out certain areas. I had trouble with the bottom of the trim (where the DTC button is), and in the middle between the lower area and climate control.
For the bottom, I bent a piece of aluminum in a 90 degree angle, stuck it under there, and pulled hard. It worked.
For the middle, I grabbed the top of the climate control on each side and pulled like mad, they came out.
For the trim itself (the long piece), I used a old ID card of mine to wedge in, that worked perfectly without scratches.
I really really suggest you do this, it is an absolutely amazing mod!
Last edited by GForceBMW; 12-01-2012 at 12:18 PM.
12-01-2012, 08:59 PM
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Does anyone know the VO entry ($000) for the sport automatic transmission? I am curious to replace the stock and program the trans as such. See if it makes even more of a difference. Apparently they are the same transmission just different programming.
GForce, what model do you have? Just curious. Seems the bigger the engine the more difference people are reporting.
Edit : Found the VO's. $205 is standard, $2TB is SAT.
GForce, what model do you have? Just curious. Seems the bigger the engine the more difference people are reporting.
Edit : Found the VO's. $205 is standard, $2TB is SAT.
Last edited by Only Bimmers; 12-01-2012 at 09:54 PM.
12-02-2012, 04:59 AM
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Only Bimmers:
I drive a PL 530i, and the sport program makes a ridiculous difference!
If only the freaking OEM parts weren't so expensive, I don't want to drill my trim, so I just have a push button hanging out of the bottom of my oddments tray.
EDIT: Does anyone know the specific part number for the actual pins inside of the connector?
I know the connector is a tyco connector, but I have a feeling that the fan-connector that I repurposed is going to bend the pins, and I'd much rather go OEM (It can't be THAT expensive) in this case.
I drive a PL 530i, and the sport program makes a ridiculous difference!
If only the freaking OEM parts weren't so expensive, I don't want to drill my trim, so I just have a push button hanging out of the bottom of my oddments tray.
EDIT: Does anyone know the specific part number for the actual pins inside of the connector?
I know the connector is a tyco connector, but I have a feeling that the fan-connector that I repurposed is going to bend the pins, and I'd much rather go OEM (It can't be THAT expensive) in this case.
12-02-2012, 09:06 AM
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member Only Bimmers says:
can anyone put it together in a single DIY with pics and specific instructions for all? Part numbers, and showing how to alter the pins, etc would be great.
I still haven't seen where anyone got the OEM pins & socket for each end. This is if you are going for a stock look obviously.
Thanks!
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can anyone put it together in a single DIY with pics and specific instructions for all? Part numbers, and showing how to alter the pins, etc would be great.
I still haven't seen where anyone got the OEM pins & socket for each end. This is if you are going for a stock look obviously.
Thanks!
i ADD :+1^^^ please and thx u
respect STELI
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12-02-2012, 09:58 AM
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Yes. I plan in doing this mod with OEM parts. The trim and button numbers are in this thread. I just need the OEM wiring harness number.
12-02-2012, 11:59 AM
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Does anyone know the VO entry ($000) for the sport automatic transmission? I am curious to replace the stock and program the trans as such. See if it makes even more of a difference. Apparently they are the same transmission just different programming.
GForce, what model do you have? Just curious. Seems the bigger the engine the more difference people are reporting.
Edit : Found the VO's. $205 is standard, $2TB is SAT.
GForce, what model do you have? Just curious. Seems the bigger the engine the more difference people are reporting.
Edit : Found the VO's. $205 is standard, $2TB is SAT.
12-02-2012, 01:36 PM
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Does anyone know the VO entry ($000) for the sport automatic transmission? I am curious to replace the stock and program the trans as such. See if it makes even more of a difference. Apparently they are the same transmission just different programming.
GForce, what model do you have? Just curious. Seems the bigger the engine the more difference people are reporting.
Edit : Found the VO's. $205 is standard, $2TB is SAT.
GForce, what model do you have? Just curious. Seems the bigger the engine the more difference people are reporting.
Edit : Found the VO's. $205 is standard, $2TB is SAT.
Here is my VO and the options translated for you. I don't see anywhere where this $2TB comes into play.
I have full sports package.
E60_#1203&LCSW%0A08*NA73$205$217$226$229$300$302$3 19$339$354$403$430$431$438$441$442$459$473$481$488 $508$522$524$534$540$563$590$605$639$645$676$694$6 97$6UA$785$818$823$845$850$853$876$925$992$620$609-B110+NAUX+KMP3
Options Code
S205A AUTOMATIC GETRIEBE Automatic transmission
S217A AKTIVLENKUNG Active steering
S226A SPORTLICHE FAHRWERKSABSTIMMUNG Sports suspension settings
S229A DYNAMIC DRIVE Dynamic Drive
S300A NOTRAD Emergency spare wheel
S319A INTEGRIERTE UNIVERSAL-FERNBEDIENUNG Integrated universal remote control
S339A SHADOW LINE Shadow-Line
S403A GLASDACH, ELEKTRISCH Glass roof, electrical
S430A INNEN-/AUSSENSPIEGEL AUT.ABBLENDEND Interior/outside mirror with auto dip
S431A INNENSPIEGEL,AUTOMATISCH ABBLENDEND Interior mirror with automatic-dip
S438A EDELHOLZAUSFUEHRUNG Fine wood trim
S441A RAUCHERPAKET Smoker package
S459A SITZVERSTELLUNG, ELEKTR.MIT MEMORY Seat adjustment, electric, with memory
S481A SPORTSITZE FUER FAHRER/BEIFAHRER Sports seat
S488A LORDOSENSTUETZE FAHRER/BEIFAHRER Lumbar support, driver and passenger
S508A PARK DISTANCE CONTROL (PDC) Park Distance Control (PDC)
S522A XENON-LICHT Xenon Light
S524A ADAPTIVES KURVENLICHT Adaptive Headlights
S563A LICHTPAKET Light package
S590A LM RAEDER STERNSP.123 MIT NOTLAUF. BMW LA wheel, star spoke 123
S605A TELEMATIK VORBEREITUNG Telematics preparation
S639A KOMPLETTVORB. HANDY USA/CDN Preparation f mobile phone cpl. USA/CDN
S694A CD-WECHSLER VORBEREITUNG Provisions for BMW 6 CD changer
S697A AREA-CODE 1 Area-Code 1 for DVD
S6UAA VORBEREITUNG FUER NAVIGATIONSSYSTEM Preparation CCC
S785A WEISSE BLINKLEUCHTEN White direction indicator lights
S818A BATTERIEHAUPTSCHALTER Battery master switch
S8SPA COP STEUERUNG Control unit CO2
S925A VERSANDSCHUTZPAKET Dispatch protection pack
Standard equipment Code
S302A ALARMANLAGE Alarm system
S354A GRUENKEIL-FRONTSCHEIBE Windscreen, green-tinted upper strip
S442A GETRAENKEHALTER Drink holder
S473A ARMAUFLAGE VORN Armrest front
S534A KLIMAAUTOMATIK Automatic air conditioning
S540A GESCHWINDIGKEITSREGELUNG Cruise control
S645A RADIO-STEUERUNG US BMW US Radio
S676A HIFI LAUTSPRECHERSYSTEM HiFi speaker system
S823A HEISSLAND-AUSFUEHRUNG Hot-climate version
S845A AKUSTISCHE GURTWARNUNG Acoustic fasten seat belt reminder
S850A ZUSAETZL. TANKFUELLUNG EXPORT Additional Export tank filling
S853A SPRACHVERSION ENGLISCH Language version, English
S876A FUNKFREQUENZ 315 MHZ Radio frequency 315 MHz
S992A STEUERUNG KENNZEICHENBEFESTIGUNG Control of number-plate attachment
12-02-2012, 01:49 PM
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I just checked my workstation and that is an S option but I'm not sure what chassis it's for. For example, the K option +KMP3 is not going to work except with specific chassis' but the option does exist, I just don't think it's E chassis specific
12-02-2012, 01:59 PM
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I have a 2004 530d msport and I don't have 'sports automatic transmission'. I don't think it's included in the sport package. (or not at least on my pre-LCI)
EDIT: oops, it looks like SAT wasn't introduced until 2008.
EDIT: oops, it looks like SAT wasn't introduced until 2008.
Last edited by bmwfive; 12-03-2012 at 05:00 AM.