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Old 09-06-2006, 01:41 AM
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ok.. will do that.. will tell Seetoh to do as per ur suggestion ah...

Nuvi.. ya.. i also blur when i saw the Dyno chart of the 523... wow.. 34HP increase!!!
Blur sia... Torque increased by 18%... woah.....
Old 09-06-2006, 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by B_73_M' post='331425' date='Sep 6 2006, 04:37 AM
Nuvi,
DMS and Hiop are all Stealth Remaps..
If i am not wrong is refundable for DMS. You not happy with the improvments, you have to let him know and he will refund back to you the next time he comes. But you need to let him reload back the orig. before you go for Hiop.

Nutty,
When you go for dyno, ask him to give you the wheel Hp instead of adjusting the figures to Crank HP.
I have mine done b4 DMS and you will be surprised the difference between Wheel and estimated Crank HP.


some one answer this question.........is the dyno chart the same for every stock car???i want to have my dyno done for the dms map and compare that with the one in bmw sg forum.

maybe there are improvements after the dms but 16 horses like i said before in my earlier post i cant feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel....hahahaa.


i not looking for refund just want to get more horsies.


jus4cars did say they send it somewhere in germany for the remapping.i wonder why it all happen when rob jus manage to do the 523 and squeeze 16hbp.i hope Jus4cars are not linked to rob in any way ie they send it to him for remapping...hahahhaa
or someone is using the same maps vice versa tweaking it a bit and say its a new program
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Yes almost the same. But Its a compensated data, meaning they added 15-20% from the wheel HP.
Go get a dyno done, if it shows near to 160+ wheel HP, means the DMS is effective, but your butt is not. ahahaha...

J4C is using Hiop. Definitely not from DMS. There are a few remappers who does this. DMS is popular in States and UK. HIOP is Europe & Asia.


Originally Posted by nuvi360' post='331468' date='Sep 6 2006, 09:37 PM
some one answer this question.........is the dyno chart the same for every stock car???i want to have my dyno done for the dms map and compare that with the one in bmw sg forum.

maybe there are improvements after the dms but 16 horses like i said before in my earlier post i cant feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel....hahahaa.
i not looking for refund just want to get more horsies.
jus4cars did say they send it somewhere in germany for the remapping.i wonder why it all happen when rob jus manage to do the 523 and squeeze 16hbp.i hope Jus4cars are not linked to rob in any way ie they send it to him for remapping...hahahhaa
or someone is using the same maps vice versa tweaking it a bit and say its a new program
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Originally Posted by B_73_M' post='331536' date='Sep 6 2006, 11:23 AM
Yes almost the same. But Its a compensated data, meaning they added 15-20% from the wheel HP.
Go get a dyno done, if it shows near to 160+ wheel HP, means the DMS is effective, but your butt is not. ahahaha...

J4C is using Hiop. Definitely not from DMS. There are a few remappers who does this. DMS is popular in States and UK. HIOP is Europe & Asia.

my butt confirmed i was right.my dms 523 did not work.

had my dyno done and at engine got only 168bhp.torque at 225.shoud it not be much higher after dms.

at the wheel only 117hbp and torque 164nm.

the other 523 stock dyno chart at bmw.sg is better than my dms dyno.looks like i really have to talk to rob about this.
any one know how to contact him?

looks like dms still not ready for 523 yet.
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hi Nuvi

I think its better for you to go for the HIOP ones.. firstly, u have local support immediately, or even money back straight away if no gains are obtained..
I also liked DMS, but being Rob the only point of contact, I think HIOP (at J4C) is a much safer, sound investment for ECU remap...
Like I have mentioned in the BMW Sg Forum, both HIOP & DMS are reliable tuners, so getting a 10-15% HP increase shouldn't be doubted...but HIOP does it at half the price of DMS... with local support from the great guys at J4C...
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hahah nutty pro.. dun talk too soon.. you know your 630 magnesium engine has been optimised already.
If they are able to squeeze out extra hp.. it will only be the high end hp.. ie smoother gear shift and unleash the rpm limit so that your engine will pull at higher rpm..
That will give you extra 20-25hp.

Nuvi,
How can your wheel hp only 116 with a 2.5L engine?! weird... i think a 318i will be able to eat you up! ahaha
Frankly.... should be around 140+ before DMS. How did they calculate the crank 168 for you?

Originally Posted by Nutty Professor' post='331795' date='Sep 7 2006, 05:53 PM
hi Nuvi

I think its better for you to go for the HIOP ones.. firstly, u have local support immediately, or even money back straight away if no gains are obtained..
I also liked DMS, but being Rob the only point of contact, I think HIOP (at J4C) is a much safer, sound investment for ECU remap...
Like I have mentioned in the BMW Sg Forum, both HIOP & DMS are reliable tuners, so getting a 10-15% HP increase shouldn't be doubted...but HIOP does it at half the price of DMS... with local support from the great guys at J4C...
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Edlee, do you know whether PML bringing in 650i? How much will be cost?
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Hi Kiasu King

I thought PML already has the 650i on sale... I saw one myself the other day... real nice..the exhaust note...

Heard from a source that someone managed to get a 645i Showroom car for S$280K!!!!! Wa lau... I am hitting myself...
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halo Adrian...

I know... I know.. oh well.. I am already happy that I can get some gains.. been asking for so many months... nothing.. and finally...
So, I am overall happy la.. whether its high end gains or better low end drivability...
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Originally Posted by B_73_M' post='331907' date='Sep 7 2006, 11:54 AM
hahah nutty pro.. dun talk too soon.. you know your 630 magnesium engine has been optimised already.
If they are able to squeeze out extra hp.. it will only be the high end hp.. ie smoother gear shift and unleash the rpm limit so that your engine will pull at higher rpm..
That will give you extra 20-25hp.

Nuvi,
How can your wheel hp only 116 with a 2.5L engine?! weird... i think a 318i will be able to eat you up! ahaha
Frankly.... should be around 140+ before DMS. How did they calculate the crank 168 for you?

i know nuts about dyno.did it at st power.

is it suppose to be like 30?% less hp from engine?168 vs 117 .


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