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09-03-2004, 10:44 AM
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I'm very surprised by the heated discussion in this thread.We're talking about a subject that legally varies from country to country. In most of Europe, it's illegal to use fog lights during normal conditions. In the US, it's not illegal. So what?
There are lot's of difference--should we argue those too?
There are no speed limits on most of the highways in Germany, although there are most every where else. Are Germans stupid or immature if they do 250 km when the recommended speed is 130km? When they endanger other lives as well?
Some would say yes, some would say no.
The point is that it's legal and that it 's ponitless for us to argue it.
Would you slow down just because someone from the US says so? I doubt it, so why continue this back and forth bickering.At one point in my life, I thought fog lights were cool to have on, but I no longer believe that. I also have a hard time seeing at night, but I've never had to turn on a fog light for help. However, until the US makes it illegal to use during normal condtions, let people do as they please. There are things in Holland too that are legal but illegal else where
There are lot's of difference--should we argue those too?
There are no speed limits on most of the highways in Germany, although there are most every where else. Are Germans stupid or immature if they do 250 km when the recommended speed is 130km? When they endanger other lives as well?
Some would say yes, some would say no.
The point is that it's legal and that it 's ponitless for us to argue it.
Would you slow down just because someone from the US says so? I doubt it, so why continue this back and forth bickering.At one point in my life, I thought fog lights were cool to have on, but I no longer believe that. I also have a hard time seeing at night, but I've never had to turn on a fog light for help. However, until the US makes it illegal to use during normal condtions, let people do as they please. There are things in Holland too that are legal but illegal else where
09-03-2004, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by delatorre41' date='Sep 3 2004, 11:48 AM
Call them what you want, FOG lights or DRIVING lights. Bottom line is you can see better at night with them on and that is a good thing, who care what people think! They don't intrude on other people's vision, so what's the big deal? Get over it!!!!!
09-03-2004, 10:53 AM
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Legal or not... That's not the point. Ppl are getting bothered by them and they DON'T help you in any way when there is no fog.
BTW:
That's not true!
Highways without speedlimits are extremely rare!
BTW:
There are no speed limits on most of the highways in Germany
Highways without speedlimits are extremely rare!
09-03-2004, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Iceman' date='Sep 3 2004, 08:53 PM
BTW:
That's not true!
Highways without speedlimits are extremely rare!
There are no speed limits on most of the highways in Germany
Highways without speedlimits are extremely rare!
09-03-2004, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by kigerka' date='Sep 3 2004, 01:05 PM
[quote name='Iceman' date='Sep 3 2004, 08:53 PM'] BTW:
That's not true!
Highways without speedlimits are extremely rare!
There are no speed limits on most of the highways in Germany
Highways without speedlimits are extremely rare!
got him on a technicallity, but his point remains valid...
09-03-2004, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by kscarrol' date='Sep 3 2004, 09:20 PM
got him on a technicallity, but his point remains valid...
One day someone will sue somebody else because the accident he had was caused by somebody on the other side who had his foglights on...
Anyways, why do you think it is illegal in some countrys? Because we are all chickens over here?
However, I think everything is said in this thread and if you want to continue this pissing contest send me a PM. This board is made for E60 discussions, let's get back to it. This discussion is going on for 24 hours now and not leading us anywhere - everybody has his view and opinion on it.
I suggest that everyone better think about the subject twice, and if you still wanna do it, you now know how some ppl feel about it.
Thank you!
09-03-2004, 11:59 AM
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From the brilliant minds at the California Dept.of Motor Vehicles.
"Fog: The best advice for driving in the fog is DON?T. You should consider postponing your trip until the fog clears. However, if you must drive, then slow down and turn on your low beam headlights. The light from high beams will reflect back and cause glare. **NEVER** drive with just your parking or fog lights."
It appears to legal to drive with your fog lights and driving lights on, even when there is no fog.
Bottom line, it's a personal preference since it's not violating any law.
This thread is done. Time to move on.
"Fog: The best advice for driving in the fog is DON?T. You should consider postponing your trip until the fog clears. However, if you must drive, then slow down and turn on your low beam headlights. The light from high beams will reflect back and cause glare. **NEVER** drive with just your parking or fog lights."
It appears to legal to drive with your fog lights and driving lights on, even when there is no fog.
Bottom line, it's a personal preference since it's not violating any law.
This thread is done. Time to move on.
09-03-2004, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Iceman' date='Sep 3 2004, 01:48 PM
[quote name='kscarrol' date='Sep 3 2004, 09:20 PM'] got him on a technicallity, but his point remains valid...
One day someone will sue somebody else because the accident he had was caused by somebody on the other side who had his foglights on...
Anyways, why do you think it is illegal in some countrys? Because we are all chickens over here?
However, I think everything is said in this thread and if you want to continue this pissing contest send me a PM. This board is made for E60 discussions, let's get back to it. This discussion is going on for 24 hours now and not leading us anywhere - everybody has his view and opinion on it.
I suggest that everyone better think about the subject twice, and if you still wanna do it, you now know how some ppl feel about it.
Thank you! [/quote]
Iceman, you seem to be wound a bit tightly today! Do I think you're all chickens over in Europe???? WTF?!
Where did that come from. I'm not the one having the pissing contest, I was simply trying to point out that there were valid points made and there were. Have a great weekend!
09-03-2004, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimbo' date='Sep 3 2004, 09:59 PM
"Fog: The best advice for driving in the fog is DON?T. You should consider postponing your trip until the fog clears. However, if you must drive, then slow down and turn on your low beam headlights. The light from high beams will reflect back and cause glare. **NEVER** drive with just your parking or fog lights."
It appears to legal to drive with your fog lights and driving lights on, even when there is no fog.
It appears to legal to drive with your fog lights and driving lights on, even when there is no fog.
09-03-2004, 12:37 PM
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fellas, fellas, relax. Obviously there is no way to change a persons mind on this subject. Let's give it a rest.
fellas, fellas, relax. Obviously there is no way to change a persons mind on this subject. Let's give it a rest.