Good one. But, hey, he also has an E39 M5...
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Yeah, but Iceman - one last thing. Maverick wins in the end!
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Hey, at least I can be his wingman...

 

Take a line you've used. "...If you look at the post I was replying to and read it, MAYBE it would make sense to you.... "

I never sweared, go back and take a good look chief

I hope everyone is tired now.... because I am!!

 

All's well that ends well!

I'm now officially off of some lame conference call with Tokyo that kept me surfing here, but now I get to go drive my car home. In the end, it's all about the E60! AS no AS, they are all fun to drive.

 

Take a line you've used. "...If you look at the post I was replying to and read it, MAYBE it would make sense to you.... "

I never sweared, go back and take a good look chief

I hope everyone is tired now.... because I am!!
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Beewang, at least tell me you were a Montoya fan and not a Ralf fan over the years at BMW F1! Then I can go to sleep better

 

I'm not a Montoya fan at all, but no Ralf fan either!

 

I've got bad new for ya (again) I am actaully a Mark Webber/Nick Heidfeld fan now like Iceman

http://www.markwebber.com/

http://www.quicknick.de/

I'd never root for McLaren-West nor can I do that for team Toyota-Panasonic.

cheers,

beewang

 

Gee, I wonder why people infer personal attacks from this.

It's comments like these that make me wonder if I really want to join this BMW "fraternity." The cars themselves are great, just a lot of really abrasive know-it-alls seem to drive them. Then again, perhaps that means I'll fit right in.

BTW, I still find myself wondering whether AS is going to be something I'll like or not. If I get a 7er the active roll stabilization is available as standard without AS; if I opt for the 5er I cannot get the sport package without AS.

 

I hope you've read the entire thread Max, because what was a personal opinion about the technology quickly grew into name calling and finger pointing, and Urbo was not above it, nor were some those in favor of AS. Urbo was just as guilty as anyone else of taking someone else's opinion as a personal attack.

As was pointed out by myself and others in the thread, just because Urbo doesn't like AS doesn't make his opinion right, it just makes it his opinion. And the same applies to those who love the AS. I tend to agree w/ Urbo as I would have loved to gotten the Active Roll Stabilization and sport suspension but the AS really turned me off. But just because he prefers the feel without the AS doesn't make AS silly nor does it make those who like it silly, or bad drivers or any of the other crap that was tossed around. As I said 4 pages ago, this thread was nothing but a list of personal opinions that are all correct as far as that individual is concerned. But it has developed into a childish pissing match.

In fact, here are Urbo's first two posts, hardly a well reasoned, thought out constructive criticism of AS...

Urbo:
Post #1
Right on! I agree completely. AS is lame - sorry! The M5 got it right if it doesn't have this gimmick. It's the only reason I opted out of the sports package on my car. It's up there with Adaptive Cruise Control in terms of sillyness to me. *I* like to drive my car.... how lazy are people getting? It's scary. I like the BMW ad where they show a guy driving through cones in one instance with and in one instance w/o AS. I almost burst out laughing at how lame and pointless it was.

Post#2
Sorry, but a perfect example why AS is S T U P I D. Lazy people... Christ!

 

No. This is NOT "constructive" criticism! He was calling ppl who have AS "lazy", and that implies that they can't drive. That's why and how it started!

 

No. This is NOT "constructive" criticism! He was calling ppl who have AS "lazy", and that implies that they can't drive. That's why and how it started!
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I see you guys are still dwelling on this. It's nice to take quotes out of context. How about putting the whole context there:

"I love it.? Can't do without it.? Unfortunately I almost get in accidents when I drive my Lexus.? I forget i need to make more effort to turn my other car."

"I love being able to drive with only one hand."

"Teriyaki"

ME: "Sorry, but a perfect example why AS is S T U P I D. Lazy people... Christ!"

What's so hard to understand from that? I called this particular person lazy and dangerous for what he said. Almost get into accidents? Love to drive with one hand? What is this!? Seriously!

And there are others who do the same - I've seen them. My friend included with his 545i. Hence "lazy people" - driving with one hand with the help of AS - to me it's stupid. Sorry it's so damn hard to understand. So stop trying to make it sound like I called everyone on this board with AS lazy. I was refering in general. YOU are draggin this thread on for more than it should. YOU are the problem. I tried to diffuse it towards the end, but here you are back at it. STOP trying to antagonize me, even if it's for kicks. Take your own advice and stop it. I know you like to have the last word so go ahead.