Finally! Bluetooth Upgrade is Scheduled for Monday
10-28-2004 | 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Rudy' date='Oct 27 2004, 11:28 PM
The voice commands are great.? Dial number and dial name are two commands that I use often and work quite well.
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Does your "Dial name" command works from the phonebook on the cell phone or do you have to do a "Save name" first on the car in order to be able to "Dial name"?
My CPT9000/car do not looks for the names on the cell phone phonebook, if I want to use the "Dial name" command, I first have to save it on the car phonebook. When I use the "Phonebook" command, it list the names that I've saved with voice command.
Overall, I'm quite happy with the performance of my CPT9000 and the cell phone signal/reception is one of the best I've ever seen.
10-28-2004 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Wiu-Bimmer' date='Oct 28 2004, 07:37 AM
[quote name='bmwin14rsm' date='Oct 27 2004, 11:41 PM']Who makes the CPT9000 and where can I get it.? Is it available for Cingular?
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[/quote]It is a V60s for Verizon in NJ, not the i.
10-28-2004 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by wassy' date='Oct 27 2004, 09:22 PM
and here is the other one --------->
SI B 84 16 03
Phone, Navigation Systems September 2003
Service Engineering
Load Graphics
SUBJECT
BMW Universal Bluetooth? Hands-Free System Pairing Difficulties
MODEL
E39 (5 Series) Sedan from 3/02
E39 (5 Series) Sport Wagon from 9/02
E46 (3 Series) Sedan & Sport Wagon from 3/02
E53 (X5) from 4/02
SITUATION
When performing the initial handset pairing (using the "Pairing" button) on a vehicle, the procedure cannot be initiated.
CAUSE
Not able to initiate the pairing procedure via the "Pairing" button
PROCEDURE
If the above situation occurs the initial pairing can be activated via the DISPlus/GT1.
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At the Control Unit mask perform an individual short test on the "ULF Universal and hands-free facility" control module from the list.
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Select "ULF Universal charging and hands-free facility" from the "Control Units" column.
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Select "Component activation" from the "Functions" column.
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Select "Start Bluetooth recognition mode" from the "Part functions" column and press the "Activate" button.
After the "Activate" button is selected, the red, yellow and green LED's will be flashing on the Multi Information Display (MID) or Board Monitor Display. On an E46, the radio will display "BT Pairing".
Follow the instructions supplied with the handset Owner's Manual to finish the BT Pairing procedure.
For further information refer to SI B84 11 03 BMW Universal Bluetooth? Hands-Free System Owner's Manual
[ Copyright ? 2003 BMW of North America, LLC ]
SI B 84 16 03
Phone, Navigation Systems September 2003
Service Engineering
Load Graphics
SUBJECT
BMW Universal Bluetooth? Hands-Free System Pairing Difficulties
MODEL
E39 (5 Series) Sedan from 3/02
E39 (5 Series) Sport Wagon from 9/02
E46 (3 Series) Sedan & Sport Wagon from 3/02
E53 (X5) from 4/02
SITUATION
When performing the initial handset pairing (using the "Pairing" button) on a vehicle, the procedure cannot be initiated.
CAUSE
Not able to initiate the pairing procedure via the "Pairing" button
PROCEDURE
If the above situation occurs the initial pairing can be activated via the DISPlus/GT1.
[8403U143.JPG]
At the Control Unit mask perform an individual short test on the "ULF Universal and hands-free facility" control module from the list.
[8403U144.JPG]
Select "ULF Universal charging and hands-free facility" from the "Control Units" column.
[8403U145.JPG]
Select "Component activation" from the "Functions" column.
[8403U147.JPG]
Select "Start Bluetooth recognition mode" from the "Part functions" column and press the "Activate" button.
After the "Activate" button is selected, the red, yellow and green LED's will be flashing on the Multi Information Display (MID) or Board Monitor Display. On an E46, the radio will display "BT Pairing".
Follow the instructions supplied with the handset Owner's Manual to finish the BT Pairing procedure.
For further information refer to SI B84 11 03 BMW Universal Bluetooth? Hands-Free System Owner's Manual
[ Copyright ? 2003 BMW of North America, LLC ]
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As son as I go to comunication settings and then Phone it tells me Please contact BMW service.
I am not sure what to do next.
10-28-2004 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by wassy' date='Oct 28 2004, 06:51 AM
[quote name='pharding' date='Oct 28 2004, 04:11 AM']I am going to do talk with the BMW Service Manager and see what ideas that he has to improve the sound quality.? I saw a post on the X5 Board at RF which documented improved sound quality by re-coding the UHF Module according to the BT Installation Instructions.? I have no idea if we even have a UHF Module in our e60s.? I may have the cradle installed which will have some impact on audio quality because the antenna will be better.? I am also going over to the local Cingular Store to see if they can do a firmware upgrade to improve the sound quality.? I intend to pursue looking for ways to improve the sound quality before I pursue another course of action.? The sound quality is usable but not very good.? Meanwhile others may have BT installed in their e60 and they can provide input.
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the shark fin antenna will do NOTHING, repeat NOTHING for sound quality.. once the call is connected, 2 bars, 3,4,5, it is the same quality.. it is when you get to one bar and start losing signal that it becomes an issue.. and by the way, the portable antennas are nearly as strong as that on the car.. There is no more a perfectionist then me, and I've done all this.. Believe me, save your time, and your money.
I promise you, as newer software upgrades come out from BMW, some will have improvements to the bluetooth coding.
As for the Cradle - let's talk about how inconvenient it is.. it is buried under an armrest, so you flip up the armrest... pretty cool to show your friends though, right... then, you must turn your body to the right, so you can extend your arm to either place the phone in, or snap it out of the cradle... put the armrest back down.. then do it all again when you are leaving the car? make no sense..
take a look at http://www.kuda-phonebase.com/home.htm and follow along to telphone consoles.. you can mount professionaly your phone in front of you, easy access, hard wired, etc.. and still pretty darn good looking. Iam holding off for a better BT solution with BMW, myself..
SAVE YOUR MONEY!!!
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10-28-2004 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by wnrussell' date='Oct 28 2004, 01:53 PM
[quote name='wassy' date='Oct 28 2004, 06:51 AM'][quote name='pharding' date='Oct 28 2004, 04:11 AM']I am going to do talk with the BMW Service Manager and see what ideas that he has to improve the sound quality.? I saw a post on the X5 Board at RF which documented improved sound quality by re-coding the UHF Module according to the BT Installation Instructions.? I have no idea if we even have a UHF Module in our e60s.? I may have the cradle installed which will have some impact on audio quality because the antenna will be better.? I am also going over to the local Cingular Store to see if they can do a firmware upgrade to improve the sound quality.? I intend to pursue looking for ways to improve the sound quality before I pursue another course of action.? The sound quality is usable but not very good.? Meanwhile others may have BT installed in their e60 and they can provide input.
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the shark fin antenna will do NOTHING, repeat NOTHING for sound quality.. once the call is connected, 2 bars, 3,4,5, it is the same quality.. it is when you get to one bar and start losing signal that it becomes an issue.. and by the way, the portable antennas are nearly as strong as that on the car.. There is no more a perfectionist then me, and I've done all this.. Believe me, save your time, and your money.
I promise you, as newer software upgrades come out from BMW, some will have improvements to the bluetooth coding.
As for the Cradle - let's talk about how inconvenient it is.. it is buried under an armrest, so you flip up the armrest... pretty cool to show your friends though, right... then, you must turn your body to the right, so you can extend your arm to either place the phone in, or snap it out of the cradle... put the armrest back down.. then do it all again when you are leaving the car? make no sense..
take a look at http://www.kuda-phonebase.com/home.htm and follow along to telphone consoles.. you can mount professionaly your phone in front of you, easy access, hard wired, etc.. and still pretty darn good looking. Iam holding off for a better BT solution with BMW, myself..
SAVE YOUR MONEY!!!
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[/quote]wassey:
Besides Bluetooth not being ready for prime time voice quality, others have said that the "functionality was excellent". Are there any differences or features with BT that you know about?
Maybe software or display differences with the new Bluetooth setup?
10-28-2004 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by bmwin14rsm' date='Oct 27 2004, 09:16 PM
I just tried to connect a Blackberry RIM device 7290 to my 2005 545.? I was able to get both the phone and vehicle to recognize each other.? I have had a problem though.? Once I go to the phone menu in Comunications, the BMW keeps asking to "Please Activate Phone".?
Has anyone tried this phone and gotten it to work.? I might try to take it to the dealer tomorow.
Has anyone tried this phone and gotten it to work.? I might try to take it to the dealer tomorow.
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10-28-2004 | 11:57 AM
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pharding -
just wondering if you can elaborate a bit on the comparative difference between the BMW BT voice quality and your experience with the BT enabled headsets. I guess I am wondering if (as wassy suggests) the weak link is the BMW BT software, or if it is a general BT limitation?
I've contacted my dealer about the retrofit, but they heard the word "Bluetooth" and have gone back into bunker mode!
just wondering if you can elaborate a bit on the comparative difference between the BMW BT voice quality and your experience with the BT enabled headsets. I guess I am wondering if (as wassy suggests) the weak link is the BMW BT software, or if it is a general BT limitation?
I've contacted my dealer about the retrofit, but they heard the word "Bluetooth" and have gone back into bunker mode!
10-28-2004 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Buster' date='Oct 28 2004, 01:57 PM
pharding -
just wondering if you can elaborate a bit on the comparative difference between the BMW BT voice quality and your experience with the BT enabled headsets.? I guess I am wondering if (as wassy suggests) the weak link is the BMW BT software, or if it is a general BT limitation?
I've contacted my dealer about the retrofit, but they heard the word "Bluetooth" and have gone back into bunker mode!
just wondering if you can elaborate a bit on the comparative difference between the BMW BT voice quality and your experience with the BT enabled headsets.? I guess I am wondering if (as wassy suggests) the weak link is the BMW BT software, or if it is a general BT limitation?
I've contacted my dealer about the retrofit, but they heard the word "Bluetooth" and have gone back into bunker mode!
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The BMW service manger at Motor Werks said that they did another Bluetooth Upgrade on an 04 5er. He said that the audio quality is the same as mine. He is not aware of anything that they can do to improve it further right now. He is optimistic that BMW will improve it eventually. He will look possible improvements as BMW rolls them out.
According to my employees the audio quality with BT is 5 on a 10 point scale. My previous hardwired BMW phone with antenna was an 8 on that scale according to them. The convenience and usability of the Bluetooth phone is great.