BMW to offer diesels in US in 2008
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Originally Posted by KAF' post='361869' date='Nov 29 2006, 10:08 PM
It will be interesting to see what the effect on he engines will be to comply with the harsher US emmisions regs on particulates.
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I do not know what the engine changes might be, but US emmisions have always been geared towards reduction in Particulates.
Europeans have concentrated on CO2 emmisions.
So something has to give somewhere.
Europeans have concentrated on CO2 emmisions.
So something has to give somewhere.
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Originally Posted by KAF' post='361883' date='Nov 29 2006, 10:36 PM
Europeans have concentrated on CO2 emmisions.
Didn't the UK government "invent" CO2 taxing when it became evident that Diesels produced less "old-style emissions"?
The diesel supplement is now waived if the car achieves Euro 4 emission standard. (535d does).
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Listen to me : diesel is a bad sickness : in my country BMW sells almost only 320d, 330d, 530d, 535d ... Sad, very sad ... :thumbsdown:
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Originally Posted by AlexFW' post='361905' date='Nov 29 2006, 11:20 PM
Listen to me : diesel is a bad sickness : in my country BMW sells almost only 320d, 330d, 530d, 535d ... Sad, very sad ... :thumbsdown:
Because they are too common in Italy?
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Originally Posted by AlexFW' post='361905' date='Nov 30 2006, 02:20 AM
Listen to me : diesel is a bad sickness : in my country BMW sells almost only 320d, 330d, 530d, 535d ... Sad, very sad ... :thumbsdown:
to be honest i agree with Alex... diesels are bad...
but some people dont mind diesel engines, and with the prices of petrol, i cant blame anyone for picking the diesel,,
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Originally Posted by madoon' post='361908' date='Nov 29 2006, 11:37 PM
to be honest i agree with Alex... diesels are bad...
but some people dont mind diesel engines, and with the prices of petrol, i cant blame anyone for picking the diesel,,
but some people dont mind diesel engines, and with the prices of petrol, i cant blame anyone for picking the diesel,,
They produce less C02 than petrol, better for the environment, have marvellous power and torque, can be nicer to drive, are quieter cruisers...
What is it that you don't like about diesel power?
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Originally Posted by Raighne' post='361912' date='Nov 29 2006, 03:48 PM
Why are they "bad"
They produce less C02 than petrol, better for the environment, have marvellous power and torque, can be nicer to drive, are quieter cruisers...
What is it that you don't like about diesel power?
They produce less C02 than petrol, better for the environment, have marvellous power and torque, can be nicer to drive, are quieter cruisers...
What is it that you don't like about diesel power?
Were you to whack a turbo on to a gas engine, add direct injection, and you've got pretty much the same benefits as diesel, and often at lower cost. In fact, based on a recent interview, one of the main developers of modern common rail injection shares this view. It's turbo charging and DI through common rail and similar systems that provide the real benefit to modern diesels (case in point - drive a prior gen non turbo diesel and tell me how great it is....) and much of the benefit is possible with a gas engine too - but at $7 to $8 per gallon every extra mile counts and that's where a diesel has an edge. Over here in the US it may be a more difficult sell. Personally, I'm delighted that we'll see modern diesels in the US ( and I may very well end up in one) - but are we in the US going to see EU-like levels of diesel market penetration? No - because the market here is, at the end of the day, very different to Europe it's the market that as much as anything makes diesels a more logical choice in much of Europe.
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Originally Posted by katheikia' post='361756' date='Nov 30 2006, 12:05 AM
I dont understand what the big deal is about the diesel engines. I dont know to much about BMW diesel engines, is it because of the fuel economy, are do they perform better than there gasoline engine equals?
As you can see ACS uses a 530d to mod and not 530i
http://www.acschnitzer.com/englisch/index.html
So they must be good
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Originally Posted by AlexFW' post='361905' date='Nov 30 2006, 07:20 AM
Listen to me : diesel is a bad sickness : in my country BMW sells almost only 320d, 330d, 530d, 535d ... Sad, very sad ... :thumbsdown: