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Originally Posted by EBMCS03' date='May 8 2005, 09:07 AM
[quote name='Iceman' date='May 6 2005, 04:26 AM']my tow truck has definately more torque than a 535... But it's damn slow...? ![Tongue](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/tongue.gif)
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[/quote]I don't understand why Iceman is calling his 545 a tow truck??? It's not that slow...
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By the way, do you got any pics of your tow truck, and are you sure it has more torque than the 535d??
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Originally Posted by swajames' date='May 7 2005, 03:06 PM
Merv, if you're thinking about the numbers that Clived posted, I'm pretty sure that the numbers that were shown as 545 are actually for the 530 (as another poster pointed out).? The "545" specs as listed look like the 530's, plus, to my untrained eyes, it looks like someone has edited the graphic to paste "535d" and "545i" over what was actually there in the first place.?
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Secondly, you've obviously never driven a 535d AND a 530i - if you had there was no way you'd think that numbers this close together for two models represented a 535d and a 530i. The guy who lives opposite me has a manual 530i and I can tell you it has nothing like the acceleration of a 535d. And as there isn't a model between the 530i and the 545i, what does that leave us thinking these performance figures are for? I don't disagree with any post that says that some of the 545i figures look a little poor however - I'm sure it is possible for a 545i to turn in better times than this - don't forget that it was an automatic car being tested however.
Interesting quote on this thread: http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/showpost....101&postcount=6
I think you might be wrong on this one. Since the car has 2 turbos one works in low rpm and the second one in high. So this diesel unlike others has the power all the time. That is whats so special about this diesel. My dad owns a E60 545i M/paket and I know that E60 535d has a better acceleration from 80 - 120km/h than the E60 545i. AND THATS IMPRESSIVE
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Originally Posted by Iceman' date='May 7 2005, 06:47 PM
[quote name='swajames' date='May 7 2005, 05:06 PM'][quote name='Merv the Derv' date='May 7 2005, 01:53 AM']535d is faster than 545i during in gear acceleration. Again the numbers don't lie.
Therefore I conclude that the 545i will not leave the 535d behind in most situations.![Thumbsup](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/thumbsup.gif)
Therefore I conclude that the 545i will not leave the 535d behind in most situations.
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[/quote]That's exactly right. The posted numbers DO lie!
And I WILL leave the 535d behind, not just in most situations...
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[/quote]From Clived's last post it would appear the link proves the figures are correct.
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Merv, I don't think it proves the figures are "correct" as in totally definitive performance figures for a 545i, but I think it does show there were from *a* 545i Auto... :-)
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Originally Posted by clived' date='May 8 2005, 03:20 PM
Merv, I don't think it proves the figures are "correct" as in totally definitive performance figures for a 545i, but I think it does show there were from *a* 545i Auto... :-)
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Firstly, im not trying to start a arguement here, just my personal views.
I'm also pretty sure that thise figures can not be for the 530i. Ive driven a 535d and its a monster. I've never driven a 545i but have driven a 745 which i know does weight alot more than the E60. Personally i felt the 535d engine was much better that the 745.
The 535d did feel like a big V8 because there was no lag and you got masses of power from every part of the rev range.
Personally i would take a 535d because everyday driving is about in gear acceleration and the 535d is much quicker than the 545i. If you look the in gear times for the 535d, they are much much quicker than the 535d.
The difference between a stock 545i and 535d is that the 545i has 61bhp more and the 535d has 82lb ft more.
The difference between a remapped 545i and 535d is that the 545i will have 38bhp more but the 535d will have 108lb ft more.
The figures for the remapped 545i are taken from Iceman and figures for the remapped 535d are taken from DMS.
Conclusion is that the 535d will have gained more if both cars are remapped. The 545i has a better chance if both cars are stock.
I'm also pretty sure that thise figures can not be for the 530i. Ive driven a 535d and its a monster. I've never driven a 545i but have driven a 745 which i know does weight alot more than the E60. Personally i felt the 535d engine was much better that the 745.
The 535d did feel like a big V8 because there was no lag and you got masses of power from every part of the rev range.
Personally i would take a 535d because everyday driving is about in gear acceleration and the 535d is much quicker than the 545i. If you look the in gear times for the 535d, they are much much quicker than the 535d.
The difference between a stock 545i and 535d is that the 545i has 61bhp more and the 535d has 82lb ft more.
The difference between a remapped 545i and 535d is that the 545i will have 38bhp more but the 535d will have 108lb ft more.
The figures for the remapped 545i are taken from Iceman and figures for the remapped 535d are taken from DMS.
Conclusion is that the 535d will have gained more if both cars are remapped. The 545i has a better chance if both cars are stock.
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Originally Posted by E60525d' date='May 8 2005, 03:38 PM
Firstly, im not trying to start a arguement here, just my personal views.
I'm also pretty sure that thise figures can not be for the 530i. Ive driven a 535d and its a monster. I've never driven a 545i but have driven a 745 which i know does weight alot more than the E60. Personally i felt the 535d engine was much better that the 745.
The 535d did feel like a big V8 because there was no lag and you got masses of power from every part of the rev range.
Personally i would take a 535d because everyday driving is about in gear acceleration and the 535d is much quicker than the 545i. If you look the in gear times for the 535d, they are much much quicker than the 535d.
The difference between a stock 545i and 535d is that the 545i has 61bhp more and the 535d has 82lb ft more.
The difference between a remapped 545i and 535d is that the 545i will have 38bhp more but the 535d will have 108lb ft more.
The figures for the remapped 545i are taken from Iceman and figures for the remapped 535d are taken from DMS.
Conclusion is that the 535d will have gained more if both cars are remapped. The 545i has a better chance if both cars are stock.
I'm also pretty sure that thise figures can not be for the 530i. Ive driven a 535d and its a monster. I've never driven a 545i but have driven a 745 which i know does weight alot more than the E60. Personally i felt the 535d engine was much better that the 745.
The 535d did feel like a big V8 because there was no lag and you got masses of power from every part of the rev range.
Personally i would take a 535d because everyday driving is about in gear acceleration and the 535d is much quicker than the 545i. If you look the in gear times for the 535d, they are much much quicker than the 535d.
The difference between a stock 545i and 535d is that the 545i has 61bhp more and the 535d has 82lb ft more.
The difference between a remapped 545i and 535d is that the 545i will have 38bhp more but the 535d will have 108lb ft more.
The figures for the remapped 545i are taken from Iceman and figures for the remapped 535d are taken from DMS.
Conclusion is that the 535d will have gained more if both cars are remapped. The 545i has a better chance if both cars are stock.
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Im not basing the times on that table. Every road test suggests this. Its obvious aswell because it has more torque than the 545i. More torque gives better in gear accelation.
Also was reading an article on the new 3.0d in the merc c-class. The mid range acceleration times were exactly the same as the AMG C55.
Also was reading an article on the new 3.0d in the merc c-class. The mid range acceleration times were exactly the same as the AMG C55.
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Originally Posted by EBMCS03' date='May 8 2005, 10:07 AM
You need to remap your tow truck? ![Laughing](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/laughing.gif)
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Originally Posted by ipp' date='May 8 2005, 10:16 AM
By the way, do you got any pics of your tow truck, and are you sure it has more torque than the 535d??
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It's actually not "MY" tow truck. Whenever I have time I work for a company that has more than 15 tow trucks. So I drive different ones and don't have one myself (I own a travel agency and do it just for fun, because I love to get my hands on all those differnt cars
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Originally Posted by Merv the Derv' date='May 8 2005, 11:01 PM
From Clived's last post it would appear the link proves the figures are correct.
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If the same magazine tells you that Elvis is still alive and that a Bugatti Veyron 16.4 (1001 HP) needs 15.2 seconds 0-100 Km/h... Would you believe it? Does it make the numbers true, just because they say so?
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Look at the official numbers from BMW.
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Originally Posted by E60525d' date='May 9 2005, 12:54 AM
Im not basing the times on that table. Every road test suggests this. Its obvious aswell because it has more torque than the 545i. More torque gives better in gear accelation.
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Here comes the typical "my-diesel-is-better-and-faster-than-your-petrol-car-diesel-driver-argument".
THIS IS BS!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by E60525d' date='May 9 2005, 12:38 AM
The difference between a remapped 545i and 535d is that the 545i will have 38bhp more but the 535d will have 108lb ft more.
The figures for the remapped 545i are taken from Iceman and figures for the remapped 535d are taken from DMS.
Conclusion is that the 535d will have gained more if both cars are remapped. The 545i has a better chance if both cars are stock.
The figures for the remapped 545i are taken from Iceman and figures for the remapped 535d are taken from DMS.
Conclusion is that the 535d will have gained more if both cars are remapped. The 545i has a better chance if both cars are stock.
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You know, this is the BEST BS I've heard in years!!!
If you are talking about remapped cars, you are not talking about the stock car anymore, youare talking about a TUNED car. If you want to compare tuned cars, then check out the Hamann tuning for the 545 engine! You don't have ANY chance to get anywhere near that with your diesel.
You can do chiptuning and other stuff with any car, but then the comparison is unfair, since one has more money and a better tuning company than the other one.
ALSO: More torque DOES NOT make your car faster!