Every major democracy has universal health care except for the U.S.. Germany was mentioned above as a failed UHCS. Depends on what side of the argument you stand. If you remember in the 1990s, Schroder attempted to ease the UHCS in Germany and cut several public programs. What happened? Anyone? Anyone? Unemployment shot through the roof! Inflation followed quickly. And those living below the poverty line also sky rocketed. A UN study of Agenda 2010 concluded that 75% of Germans needed Government programs as a means not as assistance. The report also concluded that only 7% of Germans did not require such help. Can anyone guess who was included in that 7%? Most were military, the rest owned little mom and pop companies with names like Sieman, BMW, and Audi.

America, in constrast, cannot be compared to Germany. We also have more social issues than Germany. For example, we have a much less educated society, with general high graduates declining. The single mother issue, baby boomers, immigration, etc... What does all that mean to the general population? Not much. Why? Because the constituents of 50 senators in the U.S. congress are NOT the average Jane and John Doe. The constituents of nearly every Senator are powerful groups like the American Medical Association, for example - an org that does not want UHCS. This is the same org that lobbied against allowing insurance companies to compete across stateline -which would dramtically decrease the cost of insurance. Now why would an organization that is designed for the betterment of the medical community not want a program suchs a UHC? Could it be that its members are medical professionals who draw down high six figure salaries? You use your common sense.

So if the government wants to step in a make the system fair, I see no issue with that. Are we not a Judeo-Christian nation with principles such as caring for the fellow man? If we can find $693 Billion to finance a war in Iraq, can`t we find a few extra to pay for fellow Americans? AND if we as a nation continue to worry only of self, then those who argue against UHC should not complain when a corporation sends thousands of jobs aboard for the sake of self (the corp). America greed is turning this country into a market place, NOT a homeland. I care for my fellow Americans and don`t mind paying a few extra dollars in taxes for my neighbor. We are, by all accounts, a liberal nation.

Additionally, (and everyone do your own homework on this one) of the 40 million uninsured in the US, 80% are actually hardworking Americans like you and me! They simply can not afford workplace or private insurance. CNN and FOX won`t tell you that!

 

i will be the first to admit im worried about my family and myself before anyone else. call me selfish but my/my families pay checks dont need to go to my lazy ass neighbor who didnt graduate highschool, has 4 kids, lives courtesy of government funding/housing programs, and doesnt have a job. Allowing fellow americans to not be accountable for their own actions is allowing for more of this bullshit to continue. YOU make the bed you sleep in, if you shit the bed too many times it wont be a very pleasant place to sleep in at night. I understand there are kids being born into situations they cant help....but get your free high school education and become somebody. That is why our country is so great.

 

Can I make a point please?

First, the President does not make policy, Congress does. Unless of-course you are referring to the Bush administration and Dick Chaney that used slimy tactics to usurp the Constitution. For all of you Constitutionalists that fear socialism... where was your criticism when this last cowboy was spitting on them?

Second, since Congress has major control over domestic policy, it would seem to me that one of the major responsibilities of the President is to position the US in a favorable position amongst the international community for defense, trade, etc etc.

Can anyone here seriously argue that Obama has been a step back? Keep your friends close... keep your enemies closer! Too many of you Bush pundits have forgotten "the Art of War".

If you truly fear socialism..., pay more attention to your senators and representatives.

If you wish for your President to fail... move to the Middle East. That's what they do there.

 

Universal Health Care just isn't effecctive, and it can't work in a country with a large populous. You can not compare countries, because no country is the same.
Universal Health Care in a large country, and even in smaller countries, results in sh1t service. It results in dangerously long waiting lists, and crowded hospitals.
Not only Canada, but all of the other countries with Socialized Healthcare have these problems. Sweden also has dangerously long waiting lists with thousands of operations just getting cancelled.

Everyone has healthcare, but the care sucks and yet people pay higher taxes....you didn't solve a single problem here...in fact you probably made it worse.
How the hell do you expect this crap to function properly in a large country like the US?

 

Sorry, but the United States is not a democracy. With all your well published credentials you should know that.

Now, one can say that a lynch mob might be described as a democracy. Or where two wolves and a sheep vote for what?s for dinner. But not the United States.

Or founders knew better. Neither the Constitution nor the Declaration of Independence contains the word ?Democracy? or any reference to democracy.

 

I also normally try to avoid posting to threads that go all political, and today is a normal day, so ...

 

 

Yess haii you remember me . HEHE! Just jk.

 

Without expressing a point of view on the overall discussion, technically the President has always had a major say in policy while Congress makes laws, not policy. You can look back at many presidents setting policy in terms of international politics/relations. That policy may be formalized by Congress passing laws, etc. Simply look back to the policy of containment started under President Truman to deal with the Soviet Union...

 

AWG, I normally agree with a lot of your opinions, but as a retired Marine who actually fought for our country in Desert Storm, I am troubled to hear when one of our citizens wishes for a president to fail. If he fails, we all fail. All the sacrifices of my brothers and sisters-in arms (especially those who lost their lives) of past and present will have been for nothing. In times like these, we should put our political differences aside and press on and wish for our leaders to succeed in moving our country forward for the good of the common man. If you meant to say that he fails a particular agenda is one thing, but if you wish that he fails in everything then that means more trouble for the whole country. I wish the president and any president after him lots and lots of success in making this country the world-class leader that it once was and creating lots of opportunities for all its citizens. Thank you, Joe.