C5driver

Nice. People look at the technical specs of a camera (how many megapixies? fps? iso? etc...) and yet how do you put a number to IQ? There's a visible difference between the 4 year old 5D and the 1 year old 40D.

UUronL

Well, and then you might not always want clean and sharp all the time either... I snapped this one in Brooklyn last weekend.

C5driver

I don't. Here's one wherre I blew out the ISO:

Portrait 3

pinguhk

I love to buy it now but in HK the 1st 2 batch will alway be high price and there is alway low in stock. Each batch takes about 4 months to get the stock.
at 1 time the 16-35L was out of stock for over 4 months :thumbsdown:
Itis not even out yet and the price has gone up 50% :thumbsdown:
so 5 to 8 months wait is normal for HK people to buy.

seoulman

Geez... 50% premium! Capitalism at its best... :thumbsdown: I go to HK often on business and once in awhile, I will visit the camera/electronic shops around the island to check out gear and what I've discovered is that unless it's a big chain store, the smaller independent shops try to rape you of your money. They get out their calculators, furiously punch numbers, show you the display, and they proclaim it's a fabulous deal! Then I do the currency conversion and find that it's the exact same price as the chain stores or sometimes even more!

I've been told that DigitalRev is a good place to buy, though I've never been there let alone buy from them. Have you checked them out? Or are they charging a premium too?

pinguhk

yes you right never go to the little store. always go to the big shop like Boardway is the best 1.
they give out loads of free things and it is 100% not fake or 100% working.
But for the 5Dmk2 you will not get 1 now they have all been order. unless you pay the ripoff price

UUronL

I buy my gear from Amazon.com. They're an authorized retailer for Canon and they are great to deal with.

pinguhk

you are lucky we get nothing like that.

seoulman

Bad News: On Monday, I lent my camera gear to my buddy who wanted to try Canon equipment (currently works for and uses Nikon) and earlier today he left the gear in the trunk of his locked car to go and have dinner. When he came back to his car after dinner, the car (including my camera gear) was gone! My friend calls the police to discover that his car was towed because he had parked illegally. My friend calls me and we both go to the holding lot to retrieve his car and my camera gear. At this point I could care less about his Hyundai Veracruz. I just worried about my gear. So... my friend pays the fine, towing and storage charges. We walk towards his car and notice that the bottom edge of the hatch lid is scratched and upon closer inspection, the lip bottom lip of the hatch lid is slightly bent. The hatch had been pried open... and of course, my camera gear is gone! After a short verbal tirade aimed at my friend, we called the police. Police show up and asks the tow yard to show pictures of the car prior to towing. Apparently, in Korea, they take pictures of the car prior to lifting the car on the hoist as evidence that whatever damage car owners try to pawn off on the tow truck driver was already there. So... the pictures prior to towing show that the hatch lid is perfectly intact. Meaning the break-in happened during the tow or after the car was placed in the lot.

Good News: Police tell the tow yard that they are liable and tell me that the tow yard insurance will cover my loss, but I must produce receipts of all the gear lost. No problem! I have all the receipts. Tow yard call their insurance company and I speak with them. The insurance agent asks me to fax all the receipts for my gear. I did that within 90 minutes of the call. The insurance agent calls me back 30 minutes after sending copies of the receipt through the fax. He informs me that the tow yard is liable and that I will be reimbursed fully for all my gear. Not at the prices I paid, but at the current MSRP prices for all the gear! The money will be deposited into my bank account by Monday afternoon!

Better News: This means I get to buy new gear! Starting all over from scratch because all my gear except the remote shutter control, tripod, monopod, and non-brand/model specific gear was in that equipment bag.

So... All the photographers on this thread get to help me choose a new camera. Won't that be fun?

It's either going to be Canon or Nikon... so don't anyone be ranting on about the merits of Sony, Olympus, Pentax, etc...

The finalists are.... Drum roll please!

1) Canon 50D (US$1300) - I know that most of you on this thread will be pushing this one!

2) Nikon D300 (US$1900) - Some of you will be pushing this one hard too, but the price is on the high side in Korea...

3) Nikon D90 (US$1000) - And this one will either be the dark horse or a complete loser~

All prices are body only.

I know more than a few of you are raising eyebrows about the inclusion of the D90, but judging from all the preview write-ups, it's quite a camera for an intermediate to advanced amateur, and I fall somewhere in between those two points. And for the amount of shooting and type of shooting that I do, this camera might fit the bill. Moreover, the savings over the other two contenders may allow me to squeeze in another lens purchase, which may be more useful than higher pixel count or faster continuous shooting. Here is a test of the Nikon D90 for those of you who haven't read anything on it.

http://www.popphoto.com/cameras/5548/nikon...amera-test.html

No full tests on the Canon 50D as yet. Just previews. As for the D300, I'm sure that all you camera enthusiasts already know about that.

So... let the Canon vs Nikon 'flaming'... errrmm... I mean voting begin!

C5driver

Good news indeed! Glad things worked out for you.

If you're used to the Canon interface (menu system and controls), my vote would be to stay with Canon.