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06-01-2009 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ShadeZeRO' post='896981' date='Jun 1 2009, 01:08 PM
A portion of those "idiots" are migrating to OSX just because of that mentality 
06-01-2009 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by swajames' post='897006' date='Jun 1 2009, 04:29 PM
I'd suspect the majority are migrating because the supplied software, both the OS and the bundled applications such the iLife suite, are perhaps better suited to what they want to get out of a computer than those on offer from Microsoft with a basic Windows installation . For many users it's perfectly possible to buy a Mac and not need to get any other third party software to handle their needs. iPhoto, iMovie, iDVD, iWeb, GarageBand and iTunes cover virtually all of the bases for home user, and all are free on a new Mac. That the hardware is (generally speaking) more elegant than most Wintel boxes is a bonus to many, and there is also a massively increased awareness that a Mac makes a phenomenal home computer. The iLife apps are a key contributor to that. Two things Apple has always done incredibly well are marketing and differentiation and I think both of these are the driver behind the increased adoption and increased migration.
Isn't iLife $89
Apples use the same Dual/Quad core offerings from intel PC's use.
At this point it's only the OS that's different between them
At-least OSX is 64bit standard.
06-01-2009 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ShadeZeRO' post='897037' date='Jun 1 2009, 02:03 PM
Isn't iLife $89
Apples use the same Dual/Quad core offerings from intel PC's use.
At this point it's only the OS that's different between them
At-least OSX is 64bit standard.
Apples use the same Dual/Quad core offerings from intel PC's use.
At this point it's only the OS that's different between them
At-least OSX is 64bit standard.
And yes, it's ALL about the software!
06-01-2009 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by MiamiPhill' post='897049' date='Jun 1 2009, 05:15 PM
06-01-2009 | 01:59 PM
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I won't get into a religious debate but I will say never trust ANY Anti Virus program, they are only a layer of defense that work AFTER something happened.
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06-01-2009 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Brit_in_NJ' post='897094' date='Jun 1 2009, 05:59 PM
I agree with you! 
but a PC is not something that works out of the box. If you want a system that "just works out of the box" get a Mac. I've never considered Windows an out of the box product because there are so many companies with their hand in it (too many cooks), I've always had low expectations. Mac development is under one roof...when MS does that it gets the anti-trust people riled up.
PC/Mac they are all just computers to me, the only safe computer is one that's powered off.
Happy belated!
IT projects I've been in usually come in under budget and ahead of time. Business projects (that some like to call IT projects)...well that's another story!
I won't get into a religious debate but I will say never trust ANY Anti Virus program, they are only a layer of defense that work AFTER something happened.
I'm only half right...the other half left!
but a PC is not something that works out of the box. If you want a system that "just works out of the box" get a Mac. I've never considered Windows an out of the box product because there are so many companies with their hand in it (too many cooks), I've always had low expectations. Mac development is under one roof...when MS does that it gets the anti-trust people riled up.PC/Mac they are all just computers to me, the only safe computer is one that's powered off.
Happy belated!
IT projects I've been in usually come in under budget and ahead of time. Business projects (that some like to call IT projects)...well that's another story!
I won't get into a religious debate but I will say never trust ANY Anti Virus program, they are only a layer of defense that work AFTER something happened.
I'm only half right...the other half left!
I need to update my setup =(
06-02-2009 | 11:28 PM
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read the entire thread. gotta love the classic mac vs pc
there are plenty of mac exploits out there they just aren't as publicized by the media because it's not the dominant OS.
MacBook/Safari Hacked in 10 Seconds
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Pwn2Own-C...-2009,7322.html
"He also said he came to CanSecWest with the intention to hack into Safari and tested the exploit to make sure it worked first time around."
iTunes 8.2 (I believe some form of iTunes comes out of the box) - 6/1/09
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3592
"Impact: Visiting a maliciously crafted website may lead to an unexpected application termination or arbitrary code execution"
ATS (Adobe Type Services) - 5/12/09
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3549
"Impact: Viewing or downloading a document containing a maliciously crafted embedded CFF font may lead to arbitrary code execution"
CFNetwork - 5/12/09
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3549
"Impact: Visiting a malicious website may lead to an unexpected application termination or arbitrary code execution"
List goes on and on and on... http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1222
BetterMakeWay
Interesting article in deed I have some thoughts on it. Most botnets out there are from exploited Windows machines, this I agree with. Now most of the infected machines are running older and unpatched versions of Windows/IE6. Your article claims "If so, this would explain why Apple now has 20% or more of certain markets, but does not have even 1% of the malware market." Have they compared this to let's say WinXP w/ SP3 or Windows Vista? The article is basically comparing newer technology (OSX) to older technology (WinXP/IE6). That's not a fair comparison in my mind because MS has come a long way in writing better code and limiting admin access.
Both operating systems have their advantages and disadvantages, but to say and believe that if you're running OS X that you're safe from virii/exploits/trojans/worms is just plain naive.
On a side note, what's the deal with OS X not being able to copy file paths? That 1 problem had me dump OS X. Yes I know there are 3rd party tools but we're talking out of the box right?
there are plenty of mac exploits out there they just aren't as publicized by the media because it's not the dominant OS.
MacBook/Safari Hacked in 10 Seconds
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Pwn2Own-C...-2009,7322.html
"He also said he came to CanSecWest with the intention to hack into Safari and tested the exploit to make sure it worked first time around."
iTunes 8.2 (I believe some form of iTunes comes out of the box) - 6/1/09
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3592
"Impact: Visiting a maliciously crafted website may lead to an unexpected application termination or arbitrary code execution"
ATS (Adobe Type Services) - 5/12/09
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3549
"Impact: Viewing or downloading a document containing a maliciously crafted embedded CFF font may lead to arbitrary code execution"
CFNetwork - 5/12/09
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3549
"Impact: Visiting a malicious website may lead to an unexpected application termination or arbitrary code execution"
List goes on and on and on... http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1222
BetterMakeWay
Interesting article in deed I have some thoughts on it. Most botnets out there are from exploited Windows machines, this I agree with. Now most of the infected machines are running older and unpatched versions of Windows/IE6. Your article claims "If so, this would explain why Apple now has 20% or more of certain markets, but does not have even 1% of the malware market." Have they compared this to let's say WinXP w/ SP3 or Windows Vista? The article is basically comparing newer technology (OSX) to older technology (WinXP/IE6). That's not a fair comparison in my mind because MS has come a long way in writing better code and limiting admin access.
Both operating systems have their advantages and disadvantages, but to say and believe that if you're running OS X that you're safe from virii/exploits/trojans/worms is just plain naive.
On a side note, what's the deal with OS X not being able to copy file paths? That 1 problem had me dump OS X. Yes I know there are 3rd party tools but we're talking out of the box right?
06-02-2009 | 11:31 PM
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i would i'm running Windows 7 no firewall no antivirus.
Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' post='896847' date='Jun 1 2009, 11:11 AM
...and yet who around here would trust their Windows machine without AV apps, to run a whole month on the internet!? Try two months, three...if you can reach that time period