what a BOAT!!
02-06-2011, 09:38 AM
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My Ride: 2011 550i M-Sport xDrive
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I don't think you should have to order a car with a M package to get a BMW with good road feel and handling.
The 2011 528 lacks a little power because it is a 528 not a 535; but that is not the problem the car feels big and soft more like a BMW version of my dad's Lincoln.
The 2011 528 lacks a little power because it is a 528 not a 535; but that is not the problem the car feels big and soft more like a BMW version of my dad's Lincoln.
but in Sport mode it handles as well as e60.
02-06-2011, 09:42 AM
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02-06-2011, 09:53 AM
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My Ride: 2008 Porsche 911 Carrera S Convertible. Midnight Blue, 6 Speed.Retired - 2007 997 Carrera S, Midnight Blue, Grey leather, premium audioRetired - 2007 550i, Monaco Blue over Beige, Navigation, Logic 7, Cold Weather Pack, Comfort Access, Sport Package
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Look chaps it's all well and good blaming the BMW design department for getting it wrong but lets face facts; there is only one thing to blame for the increase in size of the 5...............
They've had to make it big enough to fit the chubby Americans in!!!
If they only sold it in Europe, to all us thinnys, it would remain nice an small.
Lay off the burgers and breakfast buffets and the next generation may have slimmed down too!
They've had to make it big enough to fit the chubby Americans in!!!
If they only sold it in Europe, to all us thinnys, it would remain nice an small.
Lay off the burgers and breakfast buffets and the next generation may have slimmed down too!
But since you've thrown down the stereotype gauntlet, let's talk about stones being thrown in glass houses. The UK has - by some margin - the highest obesity rates in Europe and is not that far behind the US in terms of overall obesity rates.
02-06-2011, 10:26 AM
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Someone's living in dream world.
02-06-2011, 10:27 AM
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My Ride: 2008 BMW 550i
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I didn't say the M3 couldn't keep up, he just had to work it pretty hard to do so. I would pull away on corner exit, only for him to catch me as he wound out 2nd & 3rd. In a few places I did hold the gap for several turns.
BTW, my time on just the 3rd run ever in the X5 was a mere 15 seconds longer over 11 miles than my all time best with the 550i and that was with taking it a bit easy, having just witnessed a wreck on the road.
02-06-2011, 10:48 AM
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My Ride: 2011 BMW 550i; Dark Graphite Metalliic/Oyster, 4.4 TT V8, 8-sp AT, Sports Package, Dynamic Handling, Premium Package 2, Cold Weather Package, HUD
Great thing about the time we live in is that there's so many choices. If you don't like the direction BMW is going, fine, there's plenty of other good cars out there. Competition has never been better. For me, I've owned like 6-7 different brand of cars in the last 12 years. It's fun to experience what each carmaker brings to the table. Once my lease is up in a couple years, I'm probably going to go towards an Audi or go back to a Cayenne. I agree that Audi is in a roll right now. Everybody is imitating their style (esp. those famous LED running lights). Due to their popularity, Audi is probably the most expensive of the luxury brands. I have my eye on the upcoming S6, but I know that is going to cost some serious $$$. (The current S6 costs as much as a fully-loaded M5!).
02-06-2011, 10:52 AM
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My Ride: f10 520da - 328 wheels, ambient lighting, sport s-wheel, oyster/black, fineline anthracite, Sophisto Gray
More Americans actually buy the smaller 3 Series.
But since you've thrown down the stereotype gauntlet, let's talk about stones being thrown in glass houses. The UK has - by some margin - the highest obesity rates in Europe and is not that far behind the US in terms of overall obesity rates.
But since you've thrown down the stereotype gauntlet, let's talk about stones being thrown in glass houses. The UK has - by some margin - the highest obesity rates in Europe and is not that far behind the US in terms of overall obesity rates.
But while you guys were dreaming up other cheese based snacks we got cracking with:
The television
The telephone
The World Wide Web
The train
The cat's eye
Stereo
Photography
The jet engine
The electric motor
The computer
The tank
Radar
The iPod
The lightbulb
The industrial revolution
much love, good night, here all week.
(CO http://www.techradar.com/news/world-...#ixzz1DD40Prvq)
02-06-2011, 10:56 AM
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My Ride: 2011 BMW 550i; Dark Graphite Metalliic/Oyster, 4.4 TT V8, 8-sp AT, Sports Package, Dynamic Handling, Premium Package 2, Cold Weather Package, HUD
Yep agree totally, we are getting a little more rotund over here thanks to a great American invention - the cheeseburger!
But while you guys were dreaming up other cheese based snacks we got cracking with:
The television
The telephone
The World Wide Web
The train
The cat's eye
Stereo
Photography
The jet engine
The electric motor
The computer
The tank
Radar
The iPod
The lightbulb
The industrial revolution
much love, good night, here all week.
(CO http://www.techradar.com/news/world-...#ixzz1DD40Prvq)
But while you guys were dreaming up other cheese based snacks we got cracking with:
The television
The telephone
The World Wide Web
The train
The cat's eye
Stereo
Photography
The jet engine
The electric motor
The computer
The tank
Radar
The iPod
The lightbulb
The industrial revolution
much love, good night, here all week.
(CO http://www.techradar.com/news/world-...#ixzz1DD40Prvq)
I think the US is the only industrialized country in the world where peoples' pets are healthier than the actual people!
02-06-2011, 11:16 AM
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My Ride: 2011 BMW 550i; Dark Graphite Metalliic/Oyster, 4.4 TT V8, 8-sp AT, Sports Package, Dynamic Handling, Premium Package 2, Cold Weather Package, HUD
So I guess you are saying that BMW has made the car more like a Lexus to appeal to the general public. If I wanted I car that appeals to the general public I would buy a Lexus or a Honda. Both of these brands are much more reliable and less expensive. The idea of making the car bigger and needing a turbo 8 for power seems crazy. I loved the looks of the new 5 and was thinking about getting one when my lease ends but now I am disappointed. The 550 is a nice car but it has a sticker of $67,000 with options and does not get the millage of my 535 and is to big. The great part of the 535 E60&E61 was that they have great power and handling. I think I will look at Audi it seems like they have become interested in build German cars with handling and performance.
"The new A6 makes extensive use of aluminum and high-tech steel components, therefore the car is 176 lbs lighter than the current generation.The 2012 A6 is also shorter, sits lower and more economical than the old car".
The new 5 is heavier, bigger and more expensive!
I am not a BMW hatter I have had two BMW and liked both of them I am saddened by the direction of BMW they seemed to have forgotten what makes them special. If I wanted a bigger car I would of purchased a 7.
"The new A6 makes extensive use of aluminum and high-tech steel components, therefore the car is 176 lbs lighter than the current generation.The 2012 A6 is also shorter, sits lower and more economical than the old car".
The new 5 is heavier, bigger and more expensive!
I am not a BMW hatter I have had two BMW and liked both of them I am saddened by the direction of BMW they seemed to have forgotten what makes them special. If I wanted a bigger car I would of purchased a 7.
02-06-2011, 01:14 PM
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what don't you guys get-its not the numbers and paper scores or even objective data. It "FEELS" like a boat. I am sure its got a great skidpad and 0-60 time but it feels big and bulky and looks that way from in the cabin. Sensation is a lot of what a true driver looks for. A nice exhaust note, great engine sound, how you feel in the cockpit all make the drivin experience. Sheer speed and numbers is meaningless. The e60 felt like a race car compared to this-and I am not talking numbers. So stop quoting stats, lean, roll, acceleration-I agree I am sure its great at that stuff. It looks and feels clunky and I did not have one ounce of pleasure in my driving it. nuff said