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Well at the risk of further offending the E60 faithful, I will stop my posting on this subject. It's beginning to look like the Chris Bangle 2003-2004 all over again.
Flame away guys.
Flame away guys.
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Let's talk (write) again, when these guys in a couple of years time, have the F10's.
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Well of course you won't mistake the E60 for a 3 or a 7.....the E60 design is almost 8 years old! While BMW updated the designs on the 3 and 7 during the last 8 years, the basic design on the 5 has virtually remained the same. Whether you think that's good or bad is entirely one's own opinion but to me, in the automotive world terms, it's a fossil.
not e60, e90, f01..but even then those models are distictively different where as the current e90, f10, and f01 all have more similarities than previous models....
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and I do like the f10 and still am considering one for me at the end of the year....
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I have a feeling that the BMW faithful with E60s looking to upgrade will find the F10 attractive, and rightly so. BMW E60 enthusiasts looking for continuation of driving experience that they are accustomed to may find it in the upcoming F30.
If I were in the market for a boulevard cruiser or tourer (with positive connotation), I would be all over the F10. I would still keep the E60 as my daily driver. I like both the E60 and F10, for their respective unique driving experience and amenities.
I agree with Petes550i. Cars are going to get heavier with each iteration of its design, the result of added safety features and consumer amenities. Whereas niche manufacturers like Porsche have been able to add lightness to their new models, most manufacturers end up with newer models that are heavier than the predecessor.
If I were in the market for a boulevard cruiser or tourer (with positive connotation), I would be all over the F10. I would still keep the E60 as my daily driver. I like both the E60 and F10, for their respective unique driving experience and amenities.
I agree with Petes550i. Cars are going to get heavier with each iteration of its design, the result of added safety features and consumer amenities. Whereas niche manufacturers like Porsche have been able to add lightness to their new models, most manufacturers end up with newer models that are heavier than the predecessor.
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There's no flaming going on, Pete. The discussions here are very different from 2003 and 2004. With the F10, all we're discussing are a few philosophical and engineering decisions and the conversations are intelligent, articulate and civil with good points and counter-points being made by all. Back in 2003 and 2004, it was as if the world had stopped turning, the entire car was being called into question and the discussions usually started badly and went downhill from there...
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I agree with Petes550i. Cars are going to get heavier with each iteration of its design, the result of added safety features and consumer amenities. Whereas niche manufacturers like Porsche have been able to add lightness to their new models, most manufacturers end up with newer models that are heavier than the predecessor.
All car companies are starting this reverse trend and we will begin to see in the coming years that the first Fx generation cars were the "end" of the bigbloated car era.
I'll say this again on the record, I dont think the F10 is a bad looking car(just boring looking) nor a bad quality car, I just dont think it fits the midsize sports luxury segment that it is supposed to represent and that is my gripe. I hope bmw is successful with it as I want them to be successful, but I think they have made poor decisions that do not position themselves well over the next 3-6 years as the market continues to contract for such large vehicles. I hope they quickly get back to their roots and re-invents itself after what can only be viewed, imho, as a vast error in judgement with this current and soon to be released oversized model offerings.
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