Originally Posted by Petes550i

That being said, I don't see the F10 as being "old-looking" at all....it's design is based on the E34 and E39....the classic BMW design which some people seem to have forgotten after Bangle came in and turned everything upside-down.

Originally Posted by GENEaTALS

apples to oranges, but for the sake of argument (and because you need more reasons to post...)

function and affordability.....

brand loyalty to toyota and the camry...

I'm willing to wager there is a bigger population of individuals that can afford a camry but not a 5 series..

those shopping for a bmw and 5 series are a different demographic of a camry....we don't want a camry, we want a luxurious sports sedan and are willing to pay for it (when you think, say or hear camry, does luxury or sprots sedan come to mind? when you think of a BMW 5 series, what words come to mind?)....not knocking the camry, I have a few family members and friends with them, great cars...just not for me, as I have an issue with spending my money on frivolous things like performance, handling, technological gadgetry, that BMW logo


but even with people like me, we want to feel like we are getting the most bang for out buck (in terms of car and function), just like camry owners...

okay, your turn pete.....

Originally Posted by Petes550i

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