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Old 08-21-2010, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by BabkenBMW
Another hurting evidence of the new 5 Series Achilles' heel: WEIGHT. It's too bad that the new 5 Series doesn't drive the way BMW should. BMW will lose many of its customers. But wait. The reviewer complains about the back space as well. I've read that there's plenty of back space in the new 5er. Can somebody help on this question?
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Originally Posted by GENEaTALS
is the f10 really faster than the e60? model to model (e60 535i to f10 535i)

I mean I've read posts on e90posts regarding differences between the n54 and n55 engines of the 3 series and seems the n55 has been reported to be slower (as well as less tunable). So I'm having a hard time believing that a heavier model with a "slower" engine is actually faster? Perhaps it's the 8 speed transmission. All I know is that both the f10 and e60 are two different cars for two different markets. Weather or not the two will come together is something only time will tell. I myself do like the f10 and have been playing around with the f10 configurator much more lately on the bmwusa site. The only review that really matters is that of the purchaser....we all know numbers on paper translate differently behind the wheel and on the gas pedal....so to all those nay sayers and stone throwers, get behind the wheel and go make a decision for yourself.
There is no way the F10 would be faster than the E60 model to model, not with 200 more kg. The exception being the 550i which comes with significantly more power and torque. For the rest I completely agree with what you said.
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Originally Posted by rambaldi
There is no way the F10 would be faster than the E60 model to model, not with 200 more kg. The exception being the 550i which comes with significantly more power and torque. For the rest I completely agree with what you said.
The 8 speed auto helps the F10 535i match the E60. First and second are a bit lower I believe, giving it more punch off the line.
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Originally Posted by Richard in NC
The 8 speed auto helps the F10 535i match the E60. First and second are a bit lower I believe, giving it more punch off the line.
I think the OP was talking about the 6MT. But you are right, the new gearbox will help exploit the engine and keep it in the correct range, but will it overcome the sheer inertia of 200 more kgs ? That's questionable.
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Originally Posted by Richard in NC
The 8 speed auto helps the F10 535i match the E60. First and second are a bit lower I believe, giving it more punch off the line.
True - lower gears will get the engine in its power band quicker, which probably helps offset the turbo lag.

But lower gears won't help you at driving speed which is where the article's author said he had difficulty.
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