Why NOT to install Lowering Springs only...
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Originally Posted by rpav' post='552459' date='Mar 28 2008, 05:57 PM
this doesnt sound right. i have 20's with H&R sport and i can be fully loaded and no bottoming out.
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Originally Posted by IceyTys' post='552414' date='Mar 28 2008, 04:14 PM
Also maybe you could switch your your H&R Sports for Eibach Pro-Kit, dont they ride just a wee bit higher???
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Originally Posted by DrLev99' post='552455' date='Mar 28 2008, 05:47 PM
Well, there's a front axle on the xi, of course, and it does sit higher for that reason. The xi does cost $2K more as a result.
Dave - I feel terrible man. This really blows. You should ask your mechanic if there is ANY way to reconfigure a coilover system to work with our car. I recall seeing a recent post by member Bambi (whom also has an xi and the H&R Springs) and he said his mechanic look at the underside of his car and felt with a little bit of tweaking, he could make Bilstein's work. PM him and see what he says. I think he might try it.
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Originally Posted by JPJ' post='552482' date='Mar 28 2008, 06:40 PM
Something sounds wrong somewhere, especially since others with the same set up aren't having the same problem....
For what it matters, in modern suspensions the bump stops are an active part of the suspension -- they do a lot more than on older cars where they were there just to "stop" travel well beyond the normal range. Now a days cars are into the bumps stops much more frequently, but the stops are designed to be progressive. That's why they are made out of an engineered foam and generally mounted on the strut itself rather than just a chunk of rubber on the frame. So, I wouldn't try removing them -- when you hit bottom (and it sounds like you would almost all the time) it could be really bad.
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For what it matters, in modern suspensions the bump stops are an active part of the suspension -- they do a lot more than on older cars where they were there just to "stop" travel well beyond the normal range. Now a days cars are into the bumps stops much more frequently, but the stops are designed to be progressive. That's why they are made out of an engineered foam and generally mounted on the strut itself rather than just a chunk of rubber on the frame. So, I wouldn't try removing them -- when you hit bottom (and it sounds like you would almost all the time) it could be really bad.
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All I know is what my highly trained BMW mechanic said and what I saw, and believe it not, I am not being sarcastic...this guy is a major league, highly skilled Dinan specialist who builds and has raced various cars and bimmers for over 20 years, on his free time. He knows what he's talking about and doing.
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Originally Posted by C's Bimmer' post='552503' date='Mar 28 2008, 07:05 PM
Actually, I think it's more like $3K-$4K more than the standard RWD.
Dave - I feel terrible man. This really blows. You should ask your mechanic if there is ANY way to reconfigure a coilover system to work with our car. I recall seeing a recent post by member Bambi (whom also has an xi and the H&R Springs) and he said his mechanic look at the underside of his car and felt with a little bit of tweaking, he could make Bilstein's work. PM him and see what he says. I think he might try it.
Dave - I feel terrible man. This really blows. You should ask your mechanic if there is ANY way to reconfigure a coilover system to work with our car. I recall seeing a recent post by member Bambi (whom also has an xi and the H&R Springs) and he said his mechanic look at the underside of his car and felt with a little bit of tweaking, he could make Bilstein's work. PM him and see what he says. I think he might try it.
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C, Do you know if your bump stops were cut?
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Here's a solution...
Tie an umbrella to the seat and have the other end mashing on the accelerator. Give yourself about 300 yards (with you not in the car of course) and let the car smash itself to pieces against a brick wall. Have the insurance claim it as a total. Get the money and get yourself a new RWD BMW. Problem solved.
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Tie an umbrella to the seat and have the other end mashing on the accelerator. Give yourself about 300 yards (with you not in the car of course) and let the car smash itself to pieces against a brick wall. Have the insurance claim it as a total. Get the money and get yourself a new RWD BMW. Problem solved.
Sorry...bad joke?
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Originally Posted by C's Bimmer' post='552514' date='Mar 28 2008, 07:13 PM
Here's a solution...
Tie an umbrella to the seat and have the other end mashing on the accelerator. Give yourself about 300 yards (with you not in the car of course) and let the car smash itself to pieces against a brick wall. Have the insurance claim it as a total. Get the money and get yourself a new RWD BMW. Problem solved.
Sorry...bad joke?
Tie an umbrella to the seat and have the other end mashing on the accelerator. Give yourself about 300 yards (with you not in the car of course) and let the car smash itself to pieces against a brick wall. Have the insurance claim it as a total. Get the money and get yourself a new RWD BMW. Problem solved.
Sorry...bad joke?
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Originally Posted by DrLev99' post='552429' date='Mar 28 2008, 05:04 PM
You don't want to know what that looks like! It's not really an option. Ok...here's a pic of before!
Read the last line of my original post...the P.S. part.![Tongue](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/tongue.gif)
Read the last line of my original post...the P.S. part.
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Rick...
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Originally Posted by slickrick' post='552541' date='Mar 28 2008, 08:18 PM
Dr. If I remember correctly the reason you had that large gap was because you still had the 17" wheel on the other side. I don't think the gap would be that big with 19's all around and your oem struts.
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Didn't Turner MS do research on this when they came out with these springs for the xi?!
I think the dealership is just so sick of seeing me and hearing me bitch that they came up with this conclusion beforehand and sold the story to me to prevent my ass from coming in anymore...even though I saw everything for myself.
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From Turner Motorsports' website for the H&R Sport Xi E60 springs: "H&R engineers made extensive tests to match these springs to the original shock absorbers – the result is an ideal compromise between aesthetics and a sporty and stiff but still comfortable ride/handling mix. AWD cars only." .....Um?
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