Sports Steering Wheel with paddle kit
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Post #1 explains the situation clearly, I had factory heating and had to modify the coil spring to retain the heating as Fred's paddle kit uses the pins from the heating to get the signals through.
All coil springs from the e60 share the same part no.
All coil springs from the e60 share the same part no.
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My Ride: 545i SMG with Limited Slip Differential
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Originally Posted by andy545' post='607681' date='Jun 22 2008, 06:18 PM
Post #1 explains the situation clearly,
Just want a confirmation!
All coil springs from the e60 share the same part no.
EDIT :
Ok, according to my dealer, giving to the man my chassis number, I have that "61 31 9 129 499" (you are right, till 09/05 it was the only one) .
So I have the connector so my damn dealer was wrong when they said I had no connector .
But behind it ? Are there differences between cars equipped as factory with heated steering and not ?
Does someone has electric diagrams ?
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Originally Posted by AlexFW' post='607723' date='Jun 22 2008, 08:05 PM
EDIT :
Ok, according to my dealer, giving to the man my chassis number, I have that "61 31 9 129 499" (you are right, till 09/05 it was the only one) .
So I have the connector so my damn dealer was wrong when they said I had no connector .
Ok, according to my dealer, giving to the man my chassis number, I have that "61 31 9 129 499" (you are right, till 09/05 it was the only one) .
So I have the connector so my damn dealer was wrong when they said I had no connector .
The coil spring is encodable ?!
But behind it ? Are there differences between cars equipped as factory with heated steering and not ?
Does someone has electric diagrams ?
Does someone has electric diagrams ?
I will have to find out WHAT is different between heated option cars and non heated option cars .
Imho the mod is possible and quite simple, but nobody (dealer, dealer warehouse etc.) knows how this thing works .
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Originally Posted by AlexFW' post='608328' date='Jun 23 2008, 11:10 AM
Now he said the coil spring is the same but mine is coded for the 'heated' optional disabled ..
The coil spring is encodable ?!
I will have to find out WHAT is different between heated option cars and non heated option cars .
Imho the mod is possible and quite simple, but nobody (dealer, dealer warehouse etc.) knows how this thing works .
The coil spring is encodable ?!
I will have to find out WHAT is different between heated option cars and non heated option cars .
Imho the mod is possible and quite simple, but nobody (dealer, dealer warehouse etc.) knows how this thing works .
thx
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Originally Posted by chile1' post='1085264' date='Jan 6 2010, 10:11 AM
Was this mod successfully replicated as the original poster? If so can you indicate the part numbers needed etc. I have a 2007 M5.
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Originally Posted by andy545' post='541898' date='Mar 9 2008, 11:49 AM
I promised to get back to some of you on this.
Since the very first European meet couple of years ago, Hobi had informed me that the paddle shift kit he was selling for auto tranny E60's was NOT compatible with steering wheel heating or it was installable if you were prepared to lose this option. There isn't a day in winter which I don't turn on the heated steering wheel, so I put it behind me as not doable.
However after some discussion last month with nicke60gre we came up with a plan using Fred's paddle kit by heavily modifying his already modified steering wheel coil spring. It was a long shot but Nick has pulled it off. He managed to cannibilise Fred's coil spring and add pins, wire tapes and other stuff to create an extra pair of pins on my original coil and use the same adapters that are available from the steering wheel. No modification has been made the cars electronics, as far as the car is concerned it knows none the better other than the heat switch loop still exists and that the auto recognizes the paddle emulation from Fred's kit.
The work is just sublime from both members :
Thanks guys!!
Now I have a auto tranny E60 with sports SMG steering wheel AND heated option enabled. Very unique, the only one on this board and possibly worldwide !
Process:
Sports SMG steering wheel:
Attachment 45641
Attachment 45643
Attachment 45644
Fred's steering wheel coil spring kit:
Attachment 45645
Attachment 45647
Attachment 45651
Attachment 45657
Attachment 45660
Attachment 45666
Attachment 45673
Since the very first European meet couple of years ago, Hobi had informed me that the paddle shift kit he was selling for auto tranny E60's was NOT compatible with steering wheel heating or it was installable if you were prepared to lose this option. There isn't a day in winter which I don't turn on the heated steering wheel, so I put it behind me as not doable.
However after some discussion last month with nicke60gre we came up with a plan using Fred's paddle kit by heavily modifying his already modified steering wheel coil spring. It was a long shot but Nick has pulled it off. He managed to cannibilise Fred's coil spring and add pins, wire tapes and other stuff to create an extra pair of pins on my original coil and use the same adapters that are available from the steering wheel. No modification has been made the cars electronics, as far as the car is concerned it knows none the better other than the heat switch loop still exists and that the auto recognizes the paddle emulation from Fred's kit.
The work is just sublime from both members :
Thanks guys!! Now I have a auto tranny E60 with sports SMG steering wheel AND heated option enabled. Very unique, the only one on this board and possibly worldwide !
Process:
Sports SMG steering wheel:
Attachment 45641
Attachment 45643
Attachment 45644
Fred's steering wheel coil spring kit:
Attachment 45645
Attachment 45647
Attachment 45651
Attachment 45657
Attachment 45660
Attachment 45666
Attachment 45673
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Originally Posted by Beemer696' post='1089893' date='Jan 13 2010, 08:26 PM
This is perfect!!, I have the heated steering wheel option. I want to update to the steering wheel with the paddle shirters. Are you guys selling the mod?
Still enjoying this mod years later...
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Originally Posted by andy545' post='1089908' date='Jan 13 2010, 02:46 PM
Thanks mate - not selling - this was a DIY with member nicke60gre. You basically need an extra wire tape (in the steering wheel) to create 2 new pins for the heating again because the paddle shift kit hijacks the original heat pins to emulate the gear changes.
Still enjoying this mod years later...
Still enjoying this mod years later...
you got diy how to get this extra wire tape thing would work amek create 2 new pins?
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Not sure if this is the right place, but I have searched the forum and I guess this is the thread that covers the topic I have in mind.
I'm considering changing my std Sports steering wheel to one with SMG paddle shifters. One of the issues has been which connectors to use in the steering wheel coil spring box. One solution has been to use the heating connectors (if installed or swap the coil spring box for one with heating connectors) and loose the heating function.
However on my E60 the two buttons on the left hand spoke on the steering wheel (phone and voice) are not active. What I'm thinking is that there probably are connectors for those two buttons in the coil spring box and which on my car is not being used. Wouldn't it be possible to use those two pins/connectors and rewire them to connect the paddles to the steptronic transmission instead of getting a new coil spring box with the heating connectors?
I'm considering changing my std Sports steering wheel to one with SMG paddle shifters. One of the issues has been which connectors to use in the steering wheel coil spring box. One solution has been to use the heating connectors (if installed or swap the coil spring box for one with heating connectors) and loose the heating function.
However on my E60 the two buttons on the left hand spoke on the steering wheel (phone and voice) are not active. What I'm thinking is that there probably are connectors for those two buttons in the coil spring box and which on my car is not being used. Wouldn't it be possible to use those two pins/connectors and rewire them to connect the paddles to the steptronic transmission instead of getting a new coil spring box with the heating connectors?
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