Originally Posted by fusionaccord' post='658801' date='Sep 1 2008, 01:35 PM

Can this be retrofitted to a pre-lci model? All I'm looking to do is to change the shifter...I like the 08 look better than the 07.... I am not looking to make the sport button working or anything. If possible, let me know what parts are needed...thanks

Alex

Originally Posted by seoulman' post='658549' date='Aug 31 2008, 08:40 PM

Transmission components are expensive. Electronic parts such as the ECU and shift controller are not cheap. Moreover, when you do a retrofit, it's not an option 'trade-out' like on an options sheet, where one option is traded out for another at no extra cost or little to moderate extra cost. The ECU and the shift controller of the SAT and the standard automatic probably cost the same. The minimal extra cost of the SAT when you specify it as an option at time of car purchase, is probably for the different shift lever, the sports button and the steering wheel with the shift paddles (which is also a 'trade out' with the standard steering wheel). It's sort of like changing tire and wheel options when you are buying a car. If you order a set of bigger and more expensive wheels and tires from the factory as an option, you only pay the difference because you are 'trading out' your standard wheels and tires for a different set.. When you go buy a set of bigger and more expensive tires after you take delivery of your car, you'll have to pay the full price. It's the same case here. You are paying the full price for the retrofit components required to perform the SAT functions. Moreover, the SAT option in the UK is not ?70. It is a ?1,570 option while the standard automatic is a ?1,475. The two options have a price difference of ?95.

Originally Posted by seoulman' post='658574' date='Aug 31 2008, 09:48 PM

As for the paddle shifter retro-fit, I'm not sure, I don't think anyone has done it yet. However, it should be plug and play like the SAT retrofit.

The two experts on the topic of SAT retrofit are 'rysed' and '525d MSport'. They both have done this retrofit in their cars. If you are interested in this mod, you should drop them a PM.

Originally Posted by 525d MSport' post='659393' date='Sep 2 2008, 05:27 AM

Without Rysed's DIY I wouldn't have even thought about this so I am hardly an expert.

Unless I qualify simply because I have done the mod!!

I don't know what would be involved in fitting the paddles but don't really see the need for them (for me at least).

I am quite happy to elaborate on the installation to those who are interested.

Regards,

Originally Posted by 525d MSport' post='657423' date='Aug 29 2008, 02:12 PM

No, not when in DS, but with the sport button pressed.

Originally Posted by alexf9496' post='659440' date='Sep 2 2008, 06:49 AM

I have the SAT with paddles on my 08 535 and only went into sport mode once (still breaking it in), and noticed that the revs were held longer and higher. Leavign sport mode dropped the revs immediately.

Originally Posted by rsyed' post='660664' date='Sep 3 2008, 12:18 PM

hey hey hey - couple of days away from this forum, and I miss out on this retrofit

Great job - like i said, cant go wrong with the investment. There is a third person on this forum who also has done the retrofit - he is based in taiwan and as i hear, he is going all the day (new steering wheel, paddle shifters, recode at dealer etc.)...