M5 instrument cluster
12-22-2007, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by ///Marco.it' post='509293' date='Dec 21 2007, 10:24 PM
Yes, most probably it will be better to re program the CIP with the old one installed otherwise it will recognise that there is a part not suitable for this model of car. However the next time will be enough to switch the cluster on the end without any new codification as it has been already done once.
12-22-2007, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by ///Marco.it' post='509583' date='Dec 22 2007, 05:07 PM
No, it shows M1, M2, M3 like the OEM cluster as it is coded as being an OEM cluster.
12-22-2007, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by andy545' post='509625' date='Dec 22 2007, 07:37 PM
Marco, on my uncoded M5 cluster this mode shows up as large figures - you are right of course with reference to the coding, I don't mind having that way after the coding.
No faults. The perfect transformation!
His technician (in Salonica) asked him how he prefer for the temp gauge to work and Anthony has selected it to work as consumption gauge instead of temp gauge. So simple!
12-22-2007, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ///Marco.it' post='509616' date='Dec 22 2007, 06:21 PM
When I press the DTC button it lit MDM when remove traction control lit only the circle arrow above the MDM sign.
Ah, wow, so it is already perfect!!
12-22-2007, 10:56 AM
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OK. this is the thing. I like what Marco has done, however there are 2 important aspects explained further down:
Antony's M5 cluster has the large figures in M mode - Marco confirms it is like stock.
M5 stock is like this:
Marco:
...this means there are 2 solutions.
Now, you might say it isn't a big deal, small figures, large figures - who cares ? However, it does indicate there are 2 solutions. I would accept Marco's version if:
> no further action needs to be taken with regards to coding.
If I need to swap clusters during progman/other coding this implies that : a) you have a "friendly" relationship with your local dealer who accepts this sort of moding/swapping during coding (some dealers won't accept any of this) and b) you will need to travel with your old cluster during trips. If for some reason during a trip something failed (like a LM > no lights) and you needed to code something new, without our original cluster we would be stranded as coding would not move an inch if all electronic parts haven't been checked for validity, including the cluster.
It's an inconvenient drawback in my eyes - would be great if Marco could at some stage confirm this with his technician ie. that no further action need be taken during software updates/coding...and that the cluster in fact has been recognised permanently.
Nick and I will get more info from Anthony on his solution plus I will be seeing soon a technician in Germany who also holds a solution -but not sure which one...
In any case this is better than nothing or rather ,better than seeing transmission faults all the time !!
Antony's M5 cluster has the large figures in M mode - Marco confirms it is like stock.
M5 stock is like this:
Marco:
...this means there are 2 solutions.
Now, you might say it isn't a big deal, small figures, large figures - who cares ? However, it does indicate there are 2 solutions. I would accept Marco's version if:
> no further action needs to be taken with regards to coding.
If I need to swap clusters during progman/other coding this implies that : a) you have a "friendly" relationship with your local dealer who accepts this sort of moding/swapping during coding (some dealers won't accept any of this) and b) you will need to travel with your old cluster during trips. If for some reason during a trip something failed (like a LM > no lights) and you needed to code something new, without our original cluster we would be stranded as coding would not move an inch if all electronic parts haven't been checked for validity, including the cluster.
It's an inconvenient drawback in my eyes - would be great if Marco could at some stage confirm this with his technician ie. that no further action need be taken during software updates/coding...and that the cluster in fact has been recognised permanently.
Nick and I will get more info from Anthony on his solution plus I will be seeing soon a technician in Germany who also holds a solution -but not sure which one...
In any case this is better than nothing or rather ,better than seeing transmission faults all the time !!
12-22-2007, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by andy545' post='509672' date='Dec 22 2007, 08:56 PM
Antony's M5 cluster has the large figures in M mode
Excuse me Andy, what did this Antony do ?
He plugged the cluster then .. ? Nothing, coding, he called a wizard .. ?
The size of the gear is quite important, especially with SMG .
12-22-2007, 11:27 AM
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Alex, as Nick mentioned, Anthony had it done in Salonica at some BMW parts warehouse - I guess that place has a very good technician - personally I couldn't distinguish his car from a real M5 less the exhaust tone...
solution he used is unknown, but not Marco's version.
solution he used is unknown, but not Marco's version.
12-22-2007, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by andy545' post='509678' date='Dec 22 2007, 09:27 PM
personally I couldn't distinguish his car from a real M5 less the exhaust tone...
solution he used is unknown, but not Marco's version.
Then ask Antony to ask his technician and we will have two ways to go with
(Is this antony an E60 forum member ?)
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Originally Posted by AlexFW' post='509684' date='Dec 22 2007, 09:38 PM
Then ask Antony to ask to his technician and we will have two ways to go with
Hopefully the same solution is used by the technician I know in Germany. I'll know next year when he's back from holidays.
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Originally Posted by andy545' post='509672' date='Dec 22 2007, 08:56 PM
OK. this is the thing. I like what Marco has done, however there are 2 important aspects explained further down:
Antony's M5 cluster has the large figures in M mode - Marco confirms it is like stock.
M5 stock is like this:
Attachment 42154
Marco:
Attachment 42155
...this means there are 2 solutions.
Now, you might say it isn't a big deal, small figures, large figures - who cares ? However, it does indicate there are 2 solutions. I would accept Marco's version if:
> no further action needs to be taken with regards to coding.
If I need to swap clusters during progman/other coding this implies that : a) you have a "friendly" relationship with your local dealer who accepts this sort of moding/swapping during coding (some dealers won't accept any of this) and b) you will need to travel with your old cluster during trips. If for some reason during a trip something failed (like a LM > no lights) and you needed to code something new, without our original cluster we would be stranded as coding would not move an inch if all electronic parts haven't been checked for validity, including the cluster.
It's an inconvenient drawback in my eyes - would be great if Marco could at some stage confirm this with his technician ie. that no further action need be taken during software updates/coding...and that the cluster in fact has been recognised permanently.
Nick and I will get more info from Anthony on his solution plus I will be seeing soon a technician in Germany who also holds a solution -but not sure which one...
In any case this is better than nothing or rather ,better than seeing transmission faults all the time !!
Antony's M5 cluster has the large figures in M mode - Marco confirms it is like stock.
M5 stock is like this:
Attachment 42154
Marco:
Attachment 42155
...this means there are 2 solutions.
Now, you might say it isn't a big deal, small figures, large figures - who cares ? However, it does indicate there are 2 solutions. I would accept Marco's version if:
> no further action needs to be taken with regards to coding.
If I need to swap clusters during progman/other coding this implies that : a) you have a "friendly" relationship with your local dealer who accepts this sort of moding/swapping during coding (some dealers won't accept any of this) and b) you will need to travel with your old cluster during trips. If for some reason during a trip something failed (like a LM > no lights) and you needed to code something new, without our original cluster we would be stranded as coding would not move an inch if all electronic parts haven't been checked for validity, including the cluster.
It's an inconvenient drawback in my eyes - would be great if Marco could at some stage confirm this with his technician ie. that no further action need be taken during software updates/coding...and that the cluster in fact has been recognised permanently.
Nick and I will get more info from Anthony on his solution plus I will be seeing soon a technician in Germany who also holds a solution -but not sure which one...
In any case this is better than nothing or rather ,better than seeing transmission faults all the time !!