CIC Retrofit Installation LOG
06-06-2010, 07:34 PM
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Nelson,
As a result of being one of the first to do this, you are sure to field a barrage of questions from those of us with the same interest. Your continued feedback is appreciated.
Based on your earlier statement regarding the spacing on the AC console. Is this because the LCI trim that comes with the CIC unit does not exactly fit our pre-LCI AC console, or visa versa? If it is as I think, it would mean we have to actually replace the AC console/unit to the LCI version for a perfect fit, or can we use our pre-LCI trim for this area?
I'm actually choosing the path of least resistance and purchasing the CIC and CID from Patryk along with all cables etc, which means he will do all the coding prior to shipping the unit to me. I've already sent him a down-payment and he is in the process of verifying that we can get FSC codes for my car. Wish me luck.
Would you mind also listing all the coding extras you chose for your system. I'm definitely interested in DVD-In-Motion and also have a few other goodies in mind. I want to make sure I have a full list of coding requests for Patryk before he ships my kit. I'm also going to purchase the DCAN interface regardless so we can do remote coding if needed and then coding updates in the future once Voice control codes are available etc.
I also have to remember to choose the North American / Canadian NAV maps. If there is anything else you can think of that I need to remind Patryk of, by all means please let me know.
BDW, your install looks great!!
As a result of being one of the first to do this, you are sure to field a barrage of questions from those of us with the same interest. Your continued feedback is appreciated.
Based on your earlier statement regarding the spacing on the AC console. Is this because the LCI trim that comes with the CIC unit does not exactly fit our pre-LCI AC console, or visa versa? If it is as I think, it would mean we have to actually replace the AC console/unit to the LCI version for a perfect fit, or can we use our pre-LCI trim for this area?
I'm actually choosing the path of least resistance and purchasing the CIC and CID from Patryk along with all cables etc, which means he will do all the coding prior to shipping the unit to me. I've already sent him a down-payment and he is in the process of verifying that we can get FSC codes for my car. Wish me luck.
Would you mind also listing all the coding extras you chose for your system. I'm definitely interested in DVD-In-Motion and also have a few other goodies in mind. I want to make sure I have a full list of coding requests for Patryk before he ships my kit. I'm also going to purchase the DCAN interface regardless so we can do remote coding if needed and then coding updates in the future once Voice control codes are available etc.
I also have to remember to choose the North American / Canadian NAV maps. If there is anything else you can think of that I need to remind Patryk of, by all means please let me know.
BDW, your install looks great!!
Yes, the CIC trim needed doesnt fit correctly in pre-lci models. i kinda knew that and wasnt suprised. I dont know why BMW felt the need to redesign it. You will have to replace the ac unit for a perfect flush fit. To be honest i can live it. unless i find it cheap im in no rush to replace it.
Glad you decided to go for the retrofit.Im pretty confident Patryk will be able to generate the FSC codes for your car. You wont need any luck, believe you are in good hands with Patryk. Looking forward to your install and welcome to the club
I did the dvd-in-motion and working on the automatic windows/sunroof opening/closing with a keyfob. i have to replace the driver side window regulator. he tried to erase he error code but couldnt so im taking it to the dealer sometime in the week.
Im looking forward to seeing more CIC retrofits. keep the questions coming, that the least i could do contribute to this AWESOME forum.
06-06-2010, 08:22 PM
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Wow!!! Great Job Nelson!!! finally got to install it 
Are you planning to install the trim and new controller? What about the new cigarette compartment? doesn't fit? Does your email and real time nav updates work?
see post number 7 prices can found at realoem.com
Are you planning to install the trim and new controller? What about the new cigarette compartment? doesn't fit? Does your email and real time nav updates work?see post number 7 prices can found at realoem.com
06-06-2010, 09:32 PM
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Can you clarify this statement I found on another board in relation to your retrofit? Does what you have done have HD radio out of the box or do you still have to purchase and code the IBOC module (HD Tuner) @ $950 for the unit?
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HD Radio is not part of the iDrive, it is a separate module like the one in the illustration above. So there's no "swap" possible, it is either having the module and the coding or having nothing.
Technic's correct.
Just to clarify, HD Radio is a separate module for those equipped with CCC (08 only). 2009+ iDrive models (CiC) have HD integrated within the Car Infotainment Computer (radio).
As a bonus, all iDrive-equipped M3s for 2010+ also have Sirius integrated within the CiC if specified when ordering - requiring CiC replacement if buyer's remorse kicks in after the vehicle is delivered.
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Originally Posted by Technic View Post
HD Radio is not part of the iDrive, it is a separate module like the one in the illustration above. So there's no "swap" possible, it is either having the module and the coding or having nothing.
Technic's correct.
Just to clarify, HD Radio is a separate module for those equipped with CCC (08 only). 2009+ iDrive models (CiC) have HD integrated within the Car Infotainment Computer (radio).
As a bonus, all iDrive-equipped M3s for 2010+ also have Sirius integrated within the CiC if specified when ordering - requiring CiC replacement if buyer's remorse kicks in after the vehicle is delivered.
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06-06-2010, 09:58 PM
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Im still downloading the US maps will let you know if it work. Im pretty sure if i want the email to work i will have to replace my TCU with a GSM TCU, plus pay the $200 a year BMW Assist.
LCI owners: If you want the new controller you will just have to do the cutting but not worry about the ashtray. I think i forgot to mention that lci owners(2008-early 2009 owners) will indeed need a new center trim if you want to install the controller. As far as i know the new idriver controller was being used with the CCC right before the CIC was introduced, for those owners that want to do the retrofit, the only part that you need is the CIC trim and thats because the CCC trim has 2 cd slots.
06-06-2010, 11:09 PM
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To avoid confusion i'm gonna list an up to date P/N needed for the retrofit.
2004-2007 Pre-LCI owners that are cool with keeping their current idrive controller.
CCC Owners:
61119185171 CIC HD Screen cable
61319167196 USB Port
61129196805 USB Port cable
51456976361 CIC Center trim
61136954526 CID CAN/power connector
M-ASK Owners:
61119185171 CIC HD Screen cable
61319167196 USB Port
61129196805 USB Port cable
51456976361 CIC Center trim
61136954526 CID CAN/power connector
You will also need a CCC center that goes under the CIC trim
This how it looks, its #15but you have to get your correct wood color.
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...1&fg=30&hl=513
Pre-LCI owners will also need to change the AC console to an LCI one so there wont be no gaps in between the switches.
*** For those who want to use the new idrive controller you will have to remove the armrest, cut around and remove your current idrive controller module.Purchase a new center trim($150-$300)remove the ashtray and relocate it( you will need an LCI ashtray). You will also need a new shifter trim. You will also need to cut where your current ashtray fit to fit the new center trim. You also need to purchase the LCI set of covers that goes under the CIC trim. #16 http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...47&hg=51&fg=95
Will also need the the idrive contoller trim and bracket P/N 51169155970, 51169155987 that will have to be source from Europe. Can not be orderred from a North American dealer***
2008 to early 2009 build LCI owners that are cool with keeping their current idrive controller.
CCC Owners
61136954526 CID CAN/power connector
61119185171 CIC HD Screen cable
61319167196 USB Port
61129196805 USB Port cable
51456976361 CIC Center trim
M-ASK Owners
61136954526 CID CAN/power connector
61119185171 CIC HD Screen cable
61319167196 USB Port
61129196805 USB Port cable
You will also need a CCC center that goes under the CIC trim
this is how it looks, Its #16 but you have to get your correct wood color
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...47&hg=51&fg=95
***For those who want to use the new idrive controller you will have to remove the armrest, cut around and remove your current idrive controller module.Purchase a new center trim($150-$300) Will also need the the idrive contoller trim and bracket P/N 51169155970, 51169155987 that will have to be source from Europe. Can not be orderred from a North American dealer.***
Late 2009 owners with the new Idrive controller
CCC Owners
61136954526 CID CAN/power connector
61119185171 CIC HD Screen cable
61319167196 USB Port
61129196805 USB Port cable
51456976361 CIC Center trim
M-ASK Owners
61136954526 CID CAN/power connector
61119185171 CIC HD Screen cable
61319167196 USB Port
61129196805 USB Port cable
2004-2007 Pre-LCI owners that are cool with keeping their current idrive controller.
CCC Owners:
61119185171 CIC HD Screen cable
61319167196 USB Port
61129196805 USB Port cable
51456976361 CIC Center trim
61136954526 CID CAN/power connector
M-ASK Owners:
61119185171 CIC HD Screen cable
61319167196 USB Port
61129196805 USB Port cable
51456976361 CIC Center trim
61136954526 CID CAN/power connector
You will also need a CCC center that goes under the CIC trim
This how it looks, its #15but you have to get your correct wood color.
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...1&fg=30&hl=513
Pre-LCI owners will also need to change the AC console to an LCI one so there wont be no gaps in between the switches.
*** For those who want to use the new idrive controller you will have to remove the armrest, cut around and remove your current idrive controller module.Purchase a new center trim($150-$300)remove the ashtray and relocate it( you will need an LCI ashtray). You will also need a new shifter trim. You will also need to cut where your current ashtray fit to fit the new center trim. You also need to purchase the LCI set of covers that goes under the CIC trim. #16 http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...47&hg=51&fg=95
Will also need the the idrive contoller trim and bracket P/N 51169155970, 51169155987 that will have to be source from Europe. Can not be orderred from a North American dealer***
2008 to early 2009 build LCI owners that are cool with keeping their current idrive controller.
CCC Owners
61136954526 CID CAN/power connector
61119185171 CIC HD Screen cable
61319167196 USB Port
61129196805 USB Port cable
51456976361 CIC Center trim
M-ASK Owners
61136954526 CID CAN/power connector
61119185171 CIC HD Screen cable
61319167196 USB Port
61129196805 USB Port cable
You will also need a CCC center that goes under the CIC trim
this is how it looks, Its #16 but you have to get your correct wood color
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...47&hg=51&fg=95
***For those who want to use the new idrive controller you will have to remove the armrest, cut around and remove your current idrive controller module.Purchase a new center trim($150-$300) Will also need the the idrive contoller trim and bracket P/N 51169155970, 51169155987 that will have to be source from Europe. Can not be orderred from a North American dealer.***
Late 2009 owners with the new Idrive controller
CCC Owners
61136954526 CID CAN/power connector
61119185171 CIC HD Screen cable
61319167196 USB Port
61129196805 USB Port cable
51456976361 CIC Center trim
M-ASK Owners
61136954526 CID CAN/power connector
61119185171 CIC HD Screen cable
61319167196 USB Port
61129196805 USB Port cable
06-07-2010, 12:05 AM
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Nelson, Kudos!
The install looks good and i am glad it went well for you. I'd be interested in the iDrive controller retrofit also, so will be browsing some of the other forums to see more details on this to decide if the extra work is something i want to do.
I am still on the fence with the full package from Patryk or source myself. there is a cost difference but the 'complete package' already tested and working is tempting... Also, Is there only one CIC type? i mean, if i source a CIC unit is it possible to get a non navi compatible unit?
Not long now and i will get this ball rolling in my car.
Again, well done and enjoy the new system!
The install looks good and i am glad it went well for you. I'd be interested in the iDrive controller retrofit also, so will be browsing some of the other forums to see more details on this to decide if the extra work is something i want to do.
I am still on the fence with the full package from Patryk or source myself. there is a cost difference but the 'complete package' already tested and working is tempting... Also, Is there only one CIC type? i mean, if i source a CIC unit is it possible to get a non navi compatible unit?
Not long now and i will get this ball rolling in my car.
Again, well done and enjoy the new system!
06-07-2010, 01:28 AM
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Sorry i meant from the pre-lci to lci trim conversion. The total for the retrofit ranges from $3000-$3500. If you get the CIC, CID, and Controller package(programming included) from Patryk is $2750 without none of the lci wood trims and other parts that you have to get from Germany.
Wonder if this will fit the E63.. the E60 and E63 are virtually the same car for everything else
06-07-2010, 01:52 AM
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Nelson, you are doing a great favor to the whole E60 community! It is so much easier for others to understand what needs to be done and how.
Very awesome job Nelson & Patrys!!