Progman 25.1.1 (?) Update and Questions
04-27-2007, 01:46 AM
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As a result of a complaint I have with TMC messages (or lack of them) [see http://forums.e60.net/index.php?showtopic=38873], my dealer (BMW Den Haag) has booked me in for a Progman update. They have said that they now have Progman 25.1.1 but, having read the wealth of posts and topics on this forum about Progman, I see no reference at all to this version number. So, I have a couple of questions that you guys will undoubtely be able to help me with ...
(1) What is the most current Progman version available (in general / in Europe)?
(2) How long does it normally take to run an update? BMW Den Haag are claiming they need my car for 2 full days
(3) Is there any way I can see what version is currently on my car? I recall someone here had posted instructions on how to call it up in iDrive but I cannot for the life of me find the exact post in my last 2 hours or so of searching.
(4) Has anyone who has an iPod interface had v25 loaded and have there been any issues (or improvements, for that matter)?
(5) Once the dealer is done, how can I check that the software has in fact been updated?
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(1) What is the most current Progman version available (in general / in Europe)?
(2) How long does it normally take to run an update? BMW Den Haag are claiming they need my car for 2 full days
(3) Is there any way I can see what version is currently on my car? I recall someone here had posted instructions on how to call it up in iDrive but I cannot for the life of me find the exact post in my last 2 hours or so of searching.
(4) Has anyone who has an iPod interface had v25 loaded and have there been any issues (or improvements, for that matter)?
(5) Once the dealer is done, how can I check that the software has in fact been updated?
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04-27-2007, 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by MacSid' post='418513' date='Apr 27 2007, 10:46 AM
(2) How long does it normally take to run an update? BMW Den Haag are claiming they need my car for 2 full days
(5) Once the dealer is done, how can I check that the software has in fact been updated?
(5) Once the dealer is done, how can I check that the software has in fact been updated?
(5) The iDrive display and professional navmap are different . You will see straight away.
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04-27-2007, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by MacSid' post='418513' date='Apr 27 2007, 11:46 AM
(4) Has anyone who has an iPod interface had v25 loaded and have there been any issues (or improvements, for that matter)?
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I can search ipod while still listening to music - could not do that previously. Also slightly faster.
04-27-2007, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by MacSid' post='418513' date='Apr 27 2007, 10:46 AM
(2) How long does it normally take to run an update? BMW Den Haag are claiming they need my car for 2 full days
(3) Is there any way I can see what version is currently on my car? I recall someone here had posted instructions on how to call it up in iDrive but I cannot for the life of me find the exact post in my last 2 hours or so of searching.
(5) Once the dealer is done, how can I check that the software has in fact been updated?
MacSid
(3) Is there any way I can see what version is currently on my car? I recall someone here had posted instructions on how to call it up in iDrive but I cannot for the life of me find the exact post in my last 2 hours or so of searching.
(5) Once the dealer is done, how can I check that the software has in fact been updated?
MacSid
3. No you can't, there is no way of reliably determining your CIP version from the idrive. Despite what some have written here.
5, You can ask for a copy of the 'final report' which is printed out from the update/diagnostics software at the dealers. This should give the 'Target data Status' and enable you to ID the program version.
04-27-2007, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by KAF' post='418706' date='Apr 27 2007, 09:48 PM
5, You can ask for a copy of the 'final report' which is printed out from the update/diagnostics software at the dealers. This should give the 'Target data Status' and enable you to ID the program version.
Mine is E060-07-03-516, whatever that is.
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04-27-2007, 06:14 PM
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All we can say for sure is you have something between 25.00.00 and 25.01.00. Since BMW did not release SIB info on teh tweeners it is hard to say. Could be the rumored 25.00.01, or .02 or .03 or .04.
SI B 61 14 03
General Electrical Systems April 2007
Technical Service
This Service Information bulletin supersedes S.I. B61 14 03 dated March 2007.
(New) designates changes to this revision
SUBJECT
Software Errors Corrected with Progman
MODEL
E60, E61 (5 Series)
E63, E64 (6 Series)
Vehicles produced up to March 30, 2007
SITUATION
Customer may complain of the following:
(New) The following software errors were corrected with the release of Progman 25.01.00 (Target data Status E060-07-03-520). Only software corrections for the last 2 Progman versions are listed below.
CCC (Car Communication Computer) equipped vehicle, the SDARS (Satellite Radio) stored station list is intermittently empty since programming with Progman V25.00.00.
Poor RTTI (Real Time Traffic Information) reception. The CID (Central Information Display) is constantly displaying "Transferring Messages" since programming with Progman V25.00.00.
The following software errors were corrected with the release of Progman 25.00.00 (Target data Status E060-07-03-510).
Engine pinging and cold idle fluctuation complaints. A jolt may be felt under braking. Only N62TU.
CCC: The programmable diamond MFL button does not work when set to "Next entertainment source" when vehicle is in motion.
CCC: The customer occasionally has poor radio reception after the vehicle was programmed with Progman V23.x or V24.x.
The speedometer and tachometer needles shake when the vehicle is idling.
CCC: Slow response to inputs made when using controller after startup.
CCC: A high frequency whistling noise intermittently can been heard in radio mode
CCC: Navigation system pop-up arrow display missing. Refer to SI B84 61 06.
CCC: CD/CDC track advances after key cycled. Refer to SI B65 32 05.
SI B 61 14 03
General Electrical Systems April 2007
Technical Service
This Service Information bulletin supersedes S.I. B61 14 03 dated March 2007.
(New) designates changes to this revision
SUBJECT
Software Errors Corrected with Progman
MODEL
E60, E61 (5 Series)
E63, E64 (6 Series)
Vehicles produced up to March 30, 2007
SITUATION
Customer may complain of the following:
(New) The following software errors were corrected with the release of Progman 25.01.00 (Target data Status E060-07-03-520). Only software corrections for the last 2 Progman versions are listed below.
CCC (Car Communication Computer) equipped vehicle, the SDARS (Satellite Radio) stored station list is intermittently empty since programming with Progman V25.00.00.
Poor RTTI (Real Time Traffic Information) reception. The CID (Central Information Display) is constantly displaying "Transferring Messages" since programming with Progman V25.00.00.
The following software errors were corrected with the release of Progman 25.00.00 (Target data Status E060-07-03-510).
Engine pinging and cold idle fluctuation complaints. A jolt may be felt under braking. Only N62TU.
CCC: The programmable diamond MFL button does not work when set to "Next entertainment source" when vehicle is in motion.
CCC: The customer occasionally has poor radio reception after the vehicle was programmed with Progman V23.x or V24.x.
The speedometer and tachometer needles shake when the vehicle is idling.
CCC: Slow response to inputs made when using controller after startup.
CCC: A high frequency whistling noise intermittently can been heard in radio mode
CCC: Navigation system pop-up arrow display missing. Refer to SI B84 61 06.
CCC: CD/CDC track advances after key cycled. Refer to SI B65 32 05.
Originally Posted by aybeesea' post='418714' date='Apr 27 2007, 05:53 PM
Didn't someone say that the "mapping" has now slipped a little and can no longer be used it "precisely" identify the version?
Mine is E060-07-03-516, whatever that is.
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Mine is E060-07-03-516, whatever that is.
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04-27-2007, 07:30 PM
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If I was out of warranty would BMW charge me a flat rate for the upgrade or per hour? My recent upgrade to v25 took about 2 days.. They wouldn't possibly charge me for 10+ hours of labor had my car been out of warranty would they?
05-01-2007, 01:59 AM
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A wealth of valuable information, as always!!
Thanks folks, and I'll keep you posted on how it went. Car is booked in for 6-7 June.
MacSid
Thanks folks, and I'll keep you posted on how it went. Car is booked in for 6-7 June.
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