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Originally Posted by Knobjockey' date='Aug 18 2005, 10:47 AM
[quote name='Chris535D' date='Aug 18 2005, 04:19 PM']A standard 535D is just as quick in the real world as a 545i
I cant remember when I was last at a set of traffic lights and just happened to be at the front with a 545 at the front next to me
I also dont see why a remap 535D is not a fair comparisson to a standard 545i - it is still a chunk cheaper, but would really whip its butt?
?
Anyway, lets talk about fuel comsumption and residuals??
I cant remember when I was last at a set of traffic lights and just happened to be at the front with a 545 at the front next to me
I also dont see why a remap 535D is not a fair comparisson to a standard 545i - it is still a chunk cheaper, but would really whip its butt?
? Anyway, lets talk about fuel comsumption and residuals??
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Yeh yeh sure it is.
545i
5.6 sec 0-60
13.2 sec 0-100
535d
6.6 sec 0-60
16.2 sec 0-100
530d
7.3 sec 0-60
19.6 sec 0-100
It would seem the performance difference between the 545 and the 535d is the same as the 535d and 530d!
Why would you buy a 535d when in the real world the 530d is just as fast!
Extra costs and less fuel consumption and higher insurance? :thumbsdown:
Touche 535d drivers.
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[/quote]The specs u wrote there of rthe 545i is for manual. I know and am fully aware that the manual 545i is faster than the 535d. It would be fare to compare the 2 of them in steptronic.
A test posted before and scanned showed the situation like this:
08-18-2005, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' date='Aug 18 2005, 06:26 PM
[quote name='Knobjockey' date='Aug 18 2005, 10:47 AM'][quote name='Chris535D' date='Aug 18 2005, 04:19 PM']A standard 535D is just as quick in the real world as a 545i
I cant remember when I was last at a set of traffic lights and just happened to be at the front with a 545 at the front next to me
I also dont see why a remap 535D is not a fair comparisson to a standard 545i - it is still a chunk cheaper, but would really whip its butt??
Anyway, lets talk about fuel comsumption and residuals??
I cant remember when I was last at a set of traffic lights and just happened to be at the front with a 545 at the front next to me
I also dont see why a remap 535D is not a fair comparisson to a standard 545i - it is still a chunk cheaper, but would really whip its butt?
? Anyway, lets talk about fuel comsumption and residuals??
[snapback]160650[/snapback]
Yeh yeh sure it is.
545i
5.6 sec 0-60
13.2 sec 0-100
535d
6.6 sec 0-60
16.2 sec 0-100
530d
7.3 sec 0-60
19.6 sec 0-100
It would seem the performance difference between the 545 and the 535d is the same as the 535d and 530d!
Why would you buy a 535d when in the real world the 530d is just as fast!
Extra costs and less fuel consumption and higher insurance? :thumbsdown:
Touche 535d drivers.
[snapback]160665[/snapback]
[/quote]The specs u wrote there of rthe 545i is for manual. I know and am fully aware that the manual 545i is faster than the 535d. It would be fare to compare the 2 of them in steptronic.
A test posted before and scanned showed the situation like this:
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[/quote]Is there someone who can read German, it difficult for me to translate Beschleunigung 0-100
08-18-2005, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' date='Aug 18 2005, 10:26 AM
[quote name='Knobjockey' date='Aug 18 2005, 10:47 AM'][quote name='Chris535D' date='Aug 18 2005, 04:19 PM']A standard 535D is just as quick in the real world as a 545i
I cant remember when I was last at a set of traffic lights and just happened to be at the front with a 545 at the front next to me
I also dont see why a remap 535D is not a fair comparisson to a standard 545i - it is still a chunk cheaper, but would really whip its butt??
Anyway, lets talk about fuel comsumption and residuals?
I cant remember when I was last at a set of traffic lights and just happened to be at the front with a 545 at the front next to me
I also dont see why a remap 535D is not a fair comparisson to a standard 545i - it is still a chunk cheaper, but would really whip its butt?
? Anyway, lets talk about fuel comsumption and residuals?
[snapback]160650[/snapback]
Yeh yeh sure it is.
545i
5.6 sec 0-60
13.2 sec 0-100
535d
6.6 sec 0-60
16.2 sec 0-100
530d
7.3 sec 0-60
19.6 sec 0-100
It would seem the performance difference between the 545 and the 535d is the same as the 535d and 530d!
Why would you buy a 535d when in the real world the 530d is just as fast!
Extra costs and less fuel consumption and higher insurance? :thumbsdown:
Touche 535d drivers.
[snapback]160665[/snapback]
[/quote]The specs u wrote there of rthe 545i is for manual. I know and am fully aware that the manual 545i is faster than the 535d. It would be fare to compare the 2 of them in steptronic.
A test posted before and scanned showed the situation like this:
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[/quote]If we're going to use magazine articles to make a point then one of the US mags recently tested a steptronic equipped 545 at 5.2 for the 0-60.
08-18-2005, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by swajames' date='Aug 18 2005, 12:46 PM
[quote name='BetterMakeWay' date='Aug 18 2005, 10:26 AM'][quote name='Knobjockey' date='Aug 18 2005, 10:47 AM'][quote name='Chris535D' date='Aug 18 2005, 04:19 PM']A standard 535D is just as quick in the real world as a 545i
I cant remember when I was last at a set of traffic lights and just happened to be at the front with a 545 at the front next to me
I also dont see why a remap 535D is not a fair comparisson to a standard 545i - it is still a chunk cheaper, but would really whip its butt??
Anyway, lets talk about fuel comsumption and residuals??
I cant remember when I was last at a set of traffic lights and just happened to be at the front with a 545 at the front next to me
I also dont see why a remap 535D is not a fair comparisson to a standard 545i - it is still a chunk cheaper, but would really whip its butt?
? Anyway, lets talk about fuel comsumption and residuals??
[snapback]160650[/snapback]
Yeh yeh sure it is.
545i
5.6 sec 0-60
13.2 sec 0-100
535d
6.6 sec 0-60
16.2 sec 0-100
530d
7.3 sec 0-60
19.6 sec 0-100
It would seem the performance difference between the 545 and the 535d is the same as the 535d and 530d!
Why would you buy a 535d when in the real world the 530d is just as fast!
Extra costs and less fuel consumption and higher insurance? :thumbsdown:
Touche 535d drivers.
[snapback]160665[/snapback]
[/quote]The specs u wrote there of rthe 545i is for manual. I know and am fully aware that the manual 545i is faster than the 535d. It would be fare to compare the 2 of them in steptronic.
A test posted before and scanned showed the situation like this:
[snapback]160699[/snapback]
[/quote]If we're going to use magazine articles to make a point then one of the US mags recently tested a steptronic equipped 545 at 5.2 for the 0-60.
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[/quote]Really? Post post post....i'd like to see that
08-18-2005, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' date='Aug 18 2005, 11:04 AM
[quote name='swajames' date='Aug 18 2005, 12:46 PM'][quote name='BetterMakeWay' date='Aug 18 2005, 10:26 AM'][quote name='Knobjockey' date='Aug 18 2005, 10:47 AM'][quote name='Chris535D' date='Aug 18 2005, 04:19 PM']A standard 535D is just as quick in the real world as a 545i
I cant remember when I was last at a set of traffic lights and just happened to be at the front with a 545 at the front next to me
I also dont see why a remap 535D is not a fair comparisson to a standard 545i - it is still a chunk cheaper, but would really whip its butt??
Anyway, lets talk about fuel comsumption and residuals?
I cant remember when I was last at a set of traffic lights and just happened to be at the front with a 545 at the front next to me
I also dont see why a remap 535D is not a fair comparisson to a standard 545i - it is still a chunk cheaper, but would really whip its butt?
? Anyway, lets talk about fuel comsumption and residuals?
[snapback]160650[/snapback]
Yeh yeh sure it is.
545i
5.6 sec 0-60
13.2 sec 0-100
535d
6.6 sec 0-60
16.2 sec 0-100
530d
7.3 sec 0-60
19.6 sec 0-100
It would seem the performance difference between the 545 and the 535d is the same as the 535d and 530d!
Why would you buy a 535d when in the real world the 530d is just as fast!
Extra costs and less fuel consumption and higher insurance? :thumbsdown:
Touche 535d drivers.
[snapback]160665[/snapback]
[/quote]The specs u wrote there of rthe 545i is for manual. I know and am fully aware that the manual 545i is faster than the 535d. It would be fare to compare the 2 of them in steptronic.
A test posted before and scanned showed the situation like this:
[snapback]160699[/snapback]
[/quote]If we're going to use magazine articles to make a point then one of the US mags recently tested a steptronic equipped 545 at 5.2 for the 0-60.
[snapback]160708[/snapback]
[/quote]Really? Post post post....i'd like to see that
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[/quote]Here it is. I get the print version but here's the online summary
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?se...1&page_number=3
It's a test that the E60 really won in principle - but got edged out because the reviewers didn't like the styling or idrive etc......
other mags have tested the step 545 at 5.3, 5.4 as well
08-18-2005, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by swajames' date='Aug 18 2005, 01:11 PM
[quote name='BetterMakeWay' date='Aug 18 2005, 11:04 AM'][quote name='swajames' date='Aug 18 2005, 12:46 PM'][quote name='BetterMakeWay' date='Aug 18 2005, 10:26 AM'][quote name='Knobjockey' date='Aug 18 2005, 10:47 AM'][quote name='Chris535D' date='Aug 18 2005, 04:19 PM']A standard 535D is just as quick in the real world as a 545i
I cant remember when I was last at a set of traffic lights and just happened to be at the front with a 545 at the front next to me
I also dont see why a remap 535D is not a fair comparisson to a standard 545i - it is still a chunk cheaper, but would really whip its butt??
Anyway, lets talk about fuel comsumption and residuals??
I cant remember when I was last at a set of traffic lights and just happened to be at the front with a 545 at the front next to me
I also dont see why a remap 535D is not a fair comparisson to a standard 545i - it is still a chunk cheaper, but would really whip its butt?
? Anyway, lets talk about fuel comsumption and residuals??
[snapback]160650[/snapback]
Yeh yeh sure it is.
545i
5.6 sec 0-60
13.2 sec 0-100
535d
6.6 sec 0-60
16.2 sec 0-100
530d
7.3 sec 0-60
19.6 sec 0-100
It would seem the performance difference between the 545 and the 535d is the same as the 535d and 530d!
Why would you buy a 535d when in the real world the 530d is just as fast!
Extra costs and less fuel consumption and higher insurance? :thumbsdown:
Touche 535d drivers.
[snapback]160665[/snapback]
[/quote]The specs u wrote there of rthe 545i is for manual. I know and am fully aware that the manual 545i is faster than the 535d. It would be fare to compare the 2 of them in steptronic.
A test posted before and scanned showed the situation like this:
[snapback]160699[/snapback]
[/quote]If we're going to use magazine articles to make a point then one of the US mags recently tested a steptronic equipped 545 at 5.2 for the 0-60.
[snapback]160708[/snapback]
[/quote]Really? Post post post....i'd like to see that
[snapback]160717[/snapback]
[/quote]Here it is. I get the print version but here's the online summary
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?se...1&page_number=3
It's a test that the E60 really won in principle - but got edged out because the reviewers didn't like the styling or idrive etc......
other mags have tested the step 545 at 5.3, 5.4 as well
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[/quote]Hmmm could it be real? I don't think so...u have to consider the dealer's technical sheet and than make sure what they say might be near the truth! All i know the 545i manual gets from 0-100km/h in 5.8 seconds and the 535d in 6.5 seconds. Dunno the time for steptronic on the 545i but for sure it's above 5.8!!! I think a6.1 or smth is closer to reality!
It's impossible for that 545i steptronic to accelerate from 0-60miles in 5.2! hell that's the time for the bmw m3 wich is more powerfull and alot lighter.
Is there any difference in 0-60miles/h and 0-100km/h? because 60 miles in kms makes 96km!
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Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' date='Aug 18 2005, 11:20 AM
[quote name='swajames' date='Aug 18 2005, 01:11 PM'][quote name='BetterMakeWay' date='Aug 18 2005, 11:04 AM'][quote name='swajames' date='Aug 18 2005, 12:46 PM'][quote name='BetterMakeWay' date='Aug 18 2005, 10:26 AM'][quote name='Knobjockey' date='Aug 18 2005, 10:47 AM'][quote name='Chris535D' date='Aug 18 2005, 04:19 PM']A standard 535D is just as quick in the real world as a 545i
I cant remember when I was last at a set of traffic lights and just happened to be at the front with a 545 at the front next to me
I also dont see why a remap 535D is not a fair comparisson to a standard 545i - it is still a chunk cheaper, but would really whip its butt??
Anyway, lets talk about fuel comsumption and residuals?
I cant remember when I was last at a set of traffic lights and just happened to be at the front with a 545 at the front next to me
I also dont see why a remap 535D is not a fair comparisson to a standard 545i - it is still a chunk cheaper, but would really whip its butt?
? Anyway, lets talk about fuel comsumption and residuals?
[snapback]160650[/snapback]
Yeh yeh sure it is.
545i
5.6 sec 0-60
13.2 sec 0-100
535d
6.6 sec 0-60
16.2 sec 0-100
530d
7.3 sec 0-60
19.6 sec 0-100
It would seem the performance difference between the 545 and the 535d is the same as the 535d and 530d!
Why would you buy a 535d when in the real world the 530d is just as fast!
Extra costs and less fuel consumption and higher insurance? :thumbsdown:
Touche 535d drivers.
[snapback]160665[/snapback]
[/quote]The specs u wrote there of rthe 545i is for manual. I know and am fully aware that the manual 545i is faster than the 535d. It would be fare to compare the 2 of them in steptronic.
A test posted before and scanned showed the situation like this:
[snapback]160699[/snapback]
[/quote]If we're going to use magazine articles to make a point then one of the US mags recently tested a steptronic equipped 545 at 5.2 for the 0-60.
[snapback]160708[/snapback]
[/quote]Really? Post post post....i'd like to see that
[snapback]160717[/snapback]
[/quote]Here it is. I get the print version but here's the online summary
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?se...1&page_number=3
It's a test that the E60 really won in principle - but got edged out because the reviewers didn't like the styling or idrive etc......
other mags have tested the step 545 at 5.3, 5.4 as well
[snapback]160719[/snapback]
[/quote]Hmmm could it be real? I don't think so...u have to consider the dealer's technical sheet and than make sure what they say might be near the truth! All i know the 545i manual gets from 0-100km/h in 5.8 seconds and the 535d in 6.5 seconds. Dunno the time for steptronic on the 545i but for sure it's above 5.8!!! I think a6.1 or smth is closer to reality!
It's impossible for that 545i steptronic to accelerate from 0-60miles in 5.2! hell that's the time for the bmw m3 wich is more powerfull and alot lighter.
Is there any difference in 0-60miles/h and 0-100km/h? because 60 miles in kms makes 96km!
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[/quote]Totally innaccurate conjecture. The 545 step has often tested at 5.5 or below.
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Originally Posted by Chris535D' date='Aug 18 2005, 05:19 PM
Anyway, lets talk about fuel comsumption and residuals?
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Originally Posted by ats77' date='Aug 18 2005, 05:55 PM
WHO the ***** carez both are E60 and nice car! 
but oranges and apples are healthy be happy to live w them!
but oranges and apples are healthy be happy to live w them!
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I agree!
Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' date='Aug 18 2005, 07:18 PM
No one is fighting...
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Originally Posted by swajames' date='Aug 18 2005, 07:46 PM
If we're going to use magazine articles to make a point then one of the US mags recently tested a steptronic equipped 545 at 5.2 for the 0-60.
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Mine is even faster than that.
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And I thought a DMS'd 535D was clocked the same at 5.2 to 62 and 13 to 100, with a massive amount of torqueon an auto box.
And it still does 30-35 mpg and doesn't depreciate in quite the same dramatic manner
I personally would have still had the 535D even if they had been the same price, because I couldnt face spunking the same amount of money on depreciation that the 545 is going to suffer and the way I drive, MPG would have been in the low teens.
If you live in the states, there is more of an argument for having the petrol as its so cheap, but at the price it costs at a uk pump, with performance on a par (and much cheaper too), I cant see its worth it personally.
But as the guy above pointed out, we all drive very nice cars and are lucky to.
(I do agree that my 535D sound like a taxi and everyones 545's sound sublime, but you cant have everything
And it still does 30-35 mpg and doesn't depreciate in quite the same dramatic manner
I personally would have still had the 535D even if they had been the same price, because I couldnt face spunking the same amount of money on depreciation that the 545 is going to suffer and the way I drive, MPG would have been in the low teens.
If you live in the states, there is more of an argument for having the petrol as its so cheap, but at the price it costs at a uk pump, with performance on a par (and much cheaper too), I cant see its worth it personally.
But as the guy above pointed out, we all drive very nice cars and are lucky to.
(I do agree that my 535D sound like a taxi and everyones 545's sound sublime, but you cant have everything