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Originally Posted by smarty156' post='615131' date='Jul 3 2008, 02:51 AM
Why else would you carry one?
And yes, this is a serious question.
Everyone on here that carries seems to be suggesting it's for self defence "in case" they are robbed. How is that not being insecure?
And yes, this is a serious question.
Everyone on here that carries seems to be suggesting it's for self defence "in case" they are robbed. How is that not being insecure?
I'm using the term "Insecure" in the sense of "not being self-confident. As in it's irrational. There are times where carrying a firearm(police, or say someone who leaves thier place of business the same time every day with large bank deposits) or even IMO having a firearm in your home is rational, and not insecure.
The number of people with no real reason to carry a personal firearm, but do anyway is IMO the overwhelming majority. Whether it be from "insecurity", the need to compensate for lacking in other areas
, or raising one's self-esteem, I have no idea. I'm not a psychologist nor did I stay at a Holday Inn Express last night. My point is just like the rest of the world thinking we were all cowboys at one point, if y'all have the impression that we all walk around with a fuggin shoulder holster with a 6" S&W .44 like our national symbol-Dirty Harry, you're all wrong, and are generalizing us just like you all accuse us of doing of you.
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Originally Posted by smarty156' post='615154' date='Jul 3 2008, 04:17 AM
Don't get me wrong, I like guns and I have passed an RAF Marksman course. It's just that guns belong on a range, not the streets.
But, then only the government would be armed. That makes me even more nervous!
Many of the "Framers" dealt with the 2nd amendment so the people could protect themselve from another oppressive government.
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Originally Posted by fastkevin' post='615181' date='Jul 3 2008, 10:37 AM
I take it you didn't read the rest of my post where I spelled out that the majority of us(as in 99.99999%) DO NOT carry personal firearms.
I'm using the term "Insecure" in the sense of "not being self-confident. As in it's irrational. There are times where carrying a firearm(police, or say someone who leaves thier place of business the same time every day with large bank deposits) or even IMO having a firearm in your home is rational, and not insecure.
The number of people with no real reason to carry a personal firearm, but do anyway is IMO the overwhelming majority. Whether it be from "insecurity", the need to compensate for lacking in other areas , or raising one's self-esteem, I have no idea. I'm not a psychologist nor did I stay at a Holday Inn Express last night. My point is just like the rest of the world thinking we were all cowboys at one point, if y'all have the impression that we all walk around with a fuggin shoulder holster with a 6" S&W .44 like our national symbol-Dirty Harry, you're all wrong, and are generalizing us just like you all accuse us of doing of you.
I'm using the term "Insecure" in the sense of "not being self-confident. As in it's irrational. There are times where carrying a firearm(police, or say someone who leaves thier place of business the same time every day with large bank deposits) or even IMO having a firearm in your home is rational, and not insecure.
The number of people with no real reason to carry a personal firearm, but do anyway is IMO the overwhelming majority. Whether it be from "insecurity", the need to compensate for lacking in other areas
, or raising one's self-esteem, I have no idea. I'm not a psychologist nor did I stay at a Holday Inn Express last night. My point is just like the rest of the world thinking we were all cowboys at one point, if y'all have the impression that we all walk around with a fuggin shoulder holster with a 6" S&W .44 like our national symbol-Dirty Harry, you're all wrong, and are generalizing us just like you all accuse us of doing of you.As you say, the ones "with no real reason to carry a personal firearm, but do anyway is IMO the overwhelming majority". Why is that? My opinon would be for the majority of law abiding citizens it's insecurity (i.e. they feel unsafe). For those less law abiding then the reason is obvious (but why not, it's their "right" isn't it?).
I've been to the US numerous times. I don't think you're all cowboys and I don't think everyone carries a gun. Not once have I suggested otherwise. However, I do think far too many people do carry guns and they are far too freely available.
Someone mentioned that guns don't kill people, people do. Well, actually, people with guns kill people. Without the gun there is no shooting.
I can't see that this will ever be resolved and it's just my opinion (along with everyone I know outside the US).
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Originally Posted by i<3e60' post='615184' date='Jul 3 2008, 10:55 AM
why are there so many gun haters on this though? i mean as long as youre not pointing it at me, im fine with you having one
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Originally Posted by DrLev99' post='615145' date='Jul 3 2008, 03:05 AM
Nice, I have the same one...sits in the nighstand next to my bed, just in case of the boogie man! 
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here we go again.
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Originally Posted by slickrick' post='615363' date='Jul 3 2008, 11:08 AM
here we go again.
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Originally Posted by pennetta' post='615365' date='Jul 3 2008, 11:12 AM
I am late to this party at post #227 and I didn't read the previous posts. I am sure someone got pissy about this topic.
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