Reductio ad absurdum:
lets outlaw all tobacco use thats about 4+million deaths a year (4.8 million in 2000 - http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/09/12/...in572833.shtml) , not including indigenous peoples.
Perhaps we should put all people with HIV or aids on a reservation to avoid the risk of any further spread, after all it killed between 1.9-2.4 million in 2007( http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/releas...1/en/index.html ).
Medicine is a critical danger - i believe between 2000-2002 a yearly average of something like 195,000 hospital deaths occurred due specifically to malpractice in the US.
Alcohol might be a good precaution as well, while were at it thats another 100,000 deaths a year in the US alone ( http://nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/pdf/nrd-30/NCSA/R...2006/810686.pdf ) .... after all no vintiners, brewers, barkeeprs, resteraunters, etc take pride in their professions.
By the same token we should most certainly eliminate fast food, cars, and electricity, etc, etc,

 

My point is that MORE innocent people die due to automobiles. If indeed the objective is to save human lives we must outlaw the automobile. We can't pick and choose what we outlaw to save human lives. We must outlaw knives. We must outlaw baseball bats. We must outlaw matches and lighters.

My point is that arguments for outlawing cars, firearms, knives, lighters and matches to save lives are ridiculous. We must change the behavior of criminals not punish law abiding citizens by taking away their rights.

 

Not on my watch!

 

Presumably you still count your slaves as 3/5's of a white person as well then? How many have you got? And where do you keep them in your E60? If they only count as 3/5's, does that mean you can carry 6 of them as passengers?



I've never understood the gun mentality in the States. Your constitution is a pretty impressive document - separation of state and religion - excellent (until you end up with a nutjob fundamentalist in the white house, of course), right to own weapons, specifically so you can overthrow your government if they run roughshod over the citizens (hmm, then why am I still waiting?). Fine, own weapons, but use them for the purpose the constitution intended - PLEASE!

 

I just got added to this list.

 

Welcome aboard!

 

Well, in law school, I remember a discussion about the second amendment, and with all due respect to our friends across the pond, the amendment ain't about duck hunting...

 

You brought slavery into the conversation?? Unbelievably poor taste. :thumbsdown: Godwin's Law is coming soon!

We law abiding citizens do use them for what they are intended, self defense.

PS. You've been sponging off this forum for almost a year. You could at least make a donation if you are going to spend your time here flaming threads.

 

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Poor taste? You are saying the constitution gives you an ABSOLUTE INALIENABLE RIGHT to carry guns, and nothing can possibly ever change that. It also gives you the right to own slaves (and yes, I know it doesn't mention slavery directly, but it's pretty clear nonetheless), and yet that was abolished some 140 years ago. My point is that your constitution isn't a fixed, absolute document, never to be changed. It should move with the times. You're the one who is picking and choosing which parts suit you.

Personally, I think someone carrying a deadly weapon in their car is in poor taste. And saying that you could never live somewhere that doesn't allow that "freedom" makes me want to vomit, frankly. Personally I'd rather have the freedom to overtake somebody without worrying if they had an argument with their wife that morning.