545i Vs 535d
03-30-2006, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by sapkan' post='262710' date='Mar 30 2006, 05:11 PM
I have been away for a while but not that long! Come on guys this is one long thread. Just to make it a bit longer...
I have a test from a German mag somewhere (will try to dig it up) where they compare 535d and 545 the former was quicker to 140 km/h if I remember correctly. It also posted better lap time. There you have it, 535d is the doggs.
I have a test from a German mag somewhere (will try to dig it up) where they compare 535d and 545 the former was quicker to 140 km/h if I remember correctly. It also posted better lap time. There you have it, 535d is the doggs.
03-30-2006, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by needforspeed' post='262438' date='Mar 30 2006, 01:44 PM
Fair enough - I didn't know the 535d was only in step - and now I do so thanks 
Now we are quits... what shall we argue about next ?
Now we are quits... what shall we argue about next ?
03-30-2006, 02:15 PM
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not true the smg is directly borrowed from Formula 1. BMW's m-logic smg provides the quickest possible shifts in any gearbox... at 75milliseconds each , the same as a formula 1 car
03-30-2006, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 700700' post='262746' date='Mar 31 2006, 12:15 AM
i hope you are in no way saying that the SMG found in the 545i/550i is in any way comprable to the m5/m? you are very much mistaken
not true the smg is directly borrowed from Formula 1. BMW's m-logic smg provides the quickest possible shifts in any gearbox... at 75milliseconds each , the same as a formula 1 car
not true the smg is directly borrowed from Formula 1. BMW's m-logic smg provides the quickest possible shifts in any gearbox... at 75milliseconds each , the same as a formula 1 car
Edit: SMG is faster at changing gears, but I think overall steptronics are faster because it removes driver eroor and picks the optimum shift points (in most cases).
03-30-2006, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 700700' post='262735' date='Mar 30 2006, 06:04 PM
03-30-2006, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 525dse' post='262750' date='Mar 30 2006, 06:24 PM
Maybe on M cars, but on the E60 saloon Steptronic is faster in my opinon.
OK, any challenges on this claim. (not necessarily by 525dse or 700700).
700700, can you estimate a similar duration for any SMG? I am all ears, and totally curious.Edit: I am not sure on the optimal shift point idea. Please see posts 34, 45, and 49 on this thread. They will lead you eventually to post 293 on this one. I think 293 is the last post I made on the topic, but there may be one more. If I find it, then I'll let you know.
03-30-2006, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 525dse' post='262750' date='Mar 30 2006, 11:24 PM
Maybe on M cars, but on the E60 saloon Steptronic is faster in my opinon.
Edit: SMG is faster at changing gears, but I think overall steptronics are faster because it removes driver eroor and picks the optimum shift points (in most cases).
Edit: SMG is faster at changing gears, but I think overall steptronics are faster because it removes driver eroor and picks the optimum shift points (in most cases).
03-30-2006, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Znod' post='262753' date='Mar 30 2006, 11:38 PM
700700, can you estimate a similar duration for any SMG? I am all ears, and totally curious.
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Originally Posted by 700700' post='262758' date='Mar 30 2006, 06:52 PM
no unfortunately, the only camparison side by side i could make was with the 745li (which many believe has a quicker auto gearbox than the e60) and the m3 in s6 shift mode, and i could swear that the smg shifts were indeed quicker