545i hydrolocked (well maybe)
#21
take your vacuum and stick it in a bucket of water, and see how far the water gets.
an engine intake is just like a vacuum.
#22
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Easy to prove. OP should check the filter. If intact - no water downstream of intake. If a hole then, possibly water into cylinders.
salut, Bob P.
#23
Except a vacuum doesn't have a filter or two in its intake, as does an engine intake. Unless the filter has a hole in it, the water would collect on the filter and not go any further. or the water would create a hole and progress further.
Easy to prove. OP should check the filter. If intact - no water downstream of intake. If a hole then, possibly water into cylinders.
salut, Bob P.
Easy to prove. OP should check the filter. If intact - no water downstream of intake. If a hole then, possibly water into cylinders.
salut, Bob P.
All I'm hoping through my troubleshooting to find is that it's a bent/damaged valves rather than a bent rod or busted piston or o-ring.
#24
if you're lucky, maybe your head gaskets just gave away. but that is not too likely either.
#25
Except a vacuum doesn't have a filter or two in its intake, as does an engine intake. Unless the filter has a hole in it, the water would collect on the filter and not go any further. or the water would create a hole and progress further.
Easy to prove. OP should check the filter. If intact - no water downstream of intake. If a hole then, possibly water into cylinders.
salut, Bob P.
Easy to prove. OP should check the filter. If intact - no water downstream of intake. If a hole then, possibly water into cylinders.
salut, Bob P.
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Respectfully, Bob P.
#27
According to the OP, the filter was soaked, but only a small amount of water was present downstream of the filter - so the filter did as I originally said - did not let water through. There might have been a little water entrained from the soaked filter and introduced into a cylinder or two, but not enough to cause hydraulic lock (I can do the math, if you wish). That small quantity of added water, however, does effectively raise the compression ratio exponentially as it boils and expands into steam occupying 40 times its water volume. Now, THAT, might have broken something (rings?).
Respectfully, Bob P.
Respectfully, Bob P.
I'm really surprised there is no simple system to stop the water beyond the filter. I'm an engineer by trade and I don't think this would be that complex given the complexity of the rest of the engine.
#28
According to the OP, the filter was soaked, but only a small amount of water was present downstream of the filter - so the filter did as I originally said - did not let water through. There might have been a little water entrained from the soaked filter and introduced into a cylinder or two, but not enough to cause hydraulic lock (I can do the math, if you wish). That small quantity of added water, however, does effectively raise the compression ratio exponentially as it boils and expands into steam occupying 40 times its water volume. Now, THAT, might have broken something (rings?).
Respectfully, Bob P.
Respectfully, Bob P.
his engine must have taken a decent gulp of water, if he found water in his oil.
and a engine is not going to lock up with a few drops of water in the combustion chamber. and its not the boiling water or steam that does the damage. its the piston trying to compress a liquid.
#29
Bob I think you're spot on with your assessment. I'm hoping to know exactly within next day or two of what is really broken.
I'm really surprised there is no simple system to stop the water beyond the filter. I'm an engineer by trade and I don't think this would be that complex given the complexity of the rest of the engine.
I'm really surprised there is no simple system to stop the water beyond the filter. I'm an engineer by trade and I don't think this would be that complex given the complexity of the rest of the engine.
cars arent designed to drive through water. lol