530d - Broken Swirl flap = Broken Engine
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Originally Posted by Bob525D' post='858404' date='Apr 25 2009, 10:46 AM
Did you put the flap control rod and back in along with connecting the vaccum pipe and connectors, I would check my connections in that area there are 2 connectors and 2 vac pipes (1 vac to the unit and 1 on the unit to the unit). I dont think the rail pressure reg valve is related as that is for the fuel system, you dont have tuning box plugged in do you? I had one on my volvo that I had to remove casue of a similar error.
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Originally Posted by Bob525D' post='858404' date='Apr 25 2009, 10:46 AM
Did you put the flap control rod and back in along with connecting the vaccum pipe and connectors, I would check my connections in that area there are 2 connectors and 2 vac pipes (1 vac to the unit and 1 on the unit to the unit). I dont think the rail pressure reg valve is related as that is for the fuel system, you dont have tuning box plugged in do you? I had one on my volvo that I had to remove casue of a similar error.
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Originally Posted by eddie12' post='858437' date='Apr 25 2009, 08:52 AM
I disconnected/reconnected the rail pressure reg. valve in the process of removing the manifold - would that happen to warrant any form of reset?
Fingers crossed.
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Originally Posted by Bob525D' post='858470' date='Apr 25 2009, 03:46 PM
If it was my car, I would reset the codes and see if they come back. I assume that you disconnected the battery neg terminal when you removed all this.
Fingers crossed.
Fingers crossed.
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Originally Posted by eddie12' post='858503' date='Apr 25 2009, 07:03 PM
H'mmmm! No I didn't disconnect the negative terminal - would that have made a difference? (Sorry, not too tech minded when it boils down to it, and many thanks for your help).
By the way, after I removed my flaps, I also read the error codes to at the dealer, and there was nothing.
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Originally Posted by Anzafin' post='858586' date='Apr 25 2009, 07:44 PM
That might be it. The car is alive when battery is connected and might register the things that happen with doors, connections etc...
By the way, after I removed my flaps, I also read the error codes to at the dealer, and there was nothing.
By the way, after I removed my flaps, I also read the error codes to at the dealer, and there was nothing.
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Originally Posted by RobyO' post='587501' date='May 24 2008, 03:40 PM
I haven't tuned the car in any way and the car always had regular maintenance at the BMW dealer. I will get legal advice through my insurance company and see what they can do.
I will post further info.
I will post further info.
I own a Belgian registered 530d, 2005 new, now with 125kkms and I fear the same thing has happened to me. I've just started my negotiations with the BMW dealership here in Brussels on the strength of your very helpful comments. I also cannot understand that BMW did not make a recall for such a thing, I mean such a small component ingested into the engine causing, probably, complete engine failure.
How did you fare out with the BMW dealership? Did they pay for most/all of the work?. The initial offer from BMW BeLux is 60% coverage on parts only. I've refused and want a far better deal.....
Appreciate any feedback you might be able to give.....
Cheers!
Dom2009
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Originally Posted by Dom2009' post='1051589' date='Nov 10 2009, 03:55 PM
Hi RobyO,
I own a Belgian registered 530d, 2005 new, now with 125kkms and I fear the same thing has happened to me. I've just started my negotiations with the BMW dealership here in Brussels on the strength of your very helpful comments. I also cannot understand that BMW did not make a recall for such a thing, I mean such a small component ingested into the engine causing, probably, complete engine failure.
How did you fare out with the BMW dealership? Did they pay for most/all of the work?. The initial offer from BMW BeLux is 60% coverage on parts only. I've refused and want a far better deal.....
Appreciate any feedback you might be able to give.....
Cheers!
Dom2009
I own a Belgian registered 530d, 2005 new, now with 125kkms and I fear the same thing has happened to me. I've just started my negotiations with the BMW dealership here in Brussels on the strength of your very helpful comments. I also cannot understand that BMW did not make a recall for such a thing, I mean such a small component ingested into the engine causing, probably, complete engine failure.
How did you fare out with the BMW dealership? Did they pay for most/all of the work?. The initial offer from BMW BeLux is 60% coverage on parts only. I've refused and want a far better deal.....
Appreciate any feedback you might be able to give.....
Cheers!
Dom2009
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I'm not sure about RobyO's answer, since he hasn't been online since 7th April. After you have made couple of posts on the forum you will be able to send him private mail if you wish. There's a bit better chance to get his reply that way.
Good luck with the issue
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Hi member! I am asia new member. Is just happen to me my 530d 2004. The car still in the BMW dealer workshop. I need member to advice and what happen to done here? Swirl flap Missing
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530d swirl flap failure - Dealer asking for ?1250 to perform the diagnosis...
This is for "compression tests, removing the inlet manifold, turbo pipes, removing cylinder head and inspecting, cylinder head gaskets, and refitting of the cylinder head if no further work is required circa 10.6 hours plus parts minus 10% discount plus VAT = ?1250."
Would anyone have a view if this is appropriate and reasonable?
In other forums I have read about figures for this at about ?600 (also for a 530d) and ?700 (for a 320d) - same diagnosis for the same reason.
I have the feeling that my dealership is simply milking me - as a customer with this issue they have you standing with your back against the wall.
BMW UK requires the full diagnosis to be performed before they can take any decision on goodwill.
I would appreciate if anyone would have some comparisons for me!!
Also I would be interested to know if anyone has ever taken any legal action against BMW?
This - as the various forum discussions confirm - is clearly an engineering fault. And the design of the swirl flaps was changed by BMW (no more metal parts involved that are the root cause regarding potential need to replace the engine in case of failure...)... and the manufacturer is liable for engineering/manufacturing faults well beyond the warranty period.
Many thanks for some views and hands-on experience with this!!
Stephan
This is for "compression tests, removing the inlet manifold, turbo pipes, removing cylinder head and inspecting, cylinder head gaskets, and refitting of the cylinder head if no further work is required circa 10.6 hours plus parts minus 10% discount plus VAT = ?1250."
Would anyone have a view if this is appropriate and reasonable?
In other forums I have read about figures for this at about ?600 (also for a 530d) and ?700 (for a 320d) - same diagnosis for the same reason.
I have the feeling that my dealership is simply milking me - as a customer with this issue they have you standing with your back against the wall.
BMW UK requires the full diagnosis to be performed before they can take any decision on goodwill.
I would appreciate if anyone would have some comparisons for me!!
Also I would be interested to know if anyone has ever taken any legal action against BMW?
This - as the various forum discussions confirm - is clearly an engineering fault. And the design of the swirl flaps was changed by BMW (no more metal parts involved that are the root cause regarding potential need to replace the engine in case of failure...)... and the manufacturer is liable for engineering/manufacturing faults well beyond the warranty period.
Many thanks for some views and hands-on experience with this!!
Stephan