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Old 10-02-2008, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by miguex' post='683930' date='Oct 2 2008, 02:56 PM
but he said:

Plot#83 was the new scoop RPI made for me. It's much bigger
Plot#86 was my original custom made by RPI. It a little bigger than regular E60 and slightly smaller than M6 one.

It is much bigger than what?
It's much bigger than a normal E60 M5 scoop and his original custom M5 scoops
little bigger than regular e60 (which one?)
Again E60 M5

it confuses me.
Keang24's original M5 scoop was custom. No other E60 M5 has scoops of the same size.

Then you said smaller is better. then I can make one more smaller.
Please do. Post pre and post dynos to validate any gains.

it takes about less of 5 mins to cut and fit. $2 for the duct.
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Originally Posted by mrfva' post='683917' date='Oct 2 2008, 03:41 PM
If you're interested, I can add you to the RPI scoop for V8 list, http://forums.e60.net/index.php?s=&sho...st&p=683906

Honestly I wish but right now I am broke..... that is why I am making this homemade.
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So does it means my car lost 20 hp if my RPI was for a M5? Damn.... gone down to 160 hp ?
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Originally Posted by alpinewhite' post='683949' date='Oct 2 2008, 03:25 PM
So does it means my car lost 20 hp if my RPI was for a M5? Damn.... gone down to 160 hp ?
No idea. That is why the beta testers for the 545i, pre-LCI 550i, and LCI 550i need to get dynoed.
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Originally Posted by Rizbel' post='683257' date='Oct 1 2008, 07:50 PM
I think it'll scoop/push more air in if you put it at an angle (bend) towards the front
instead of just a flat surface (air tends to collect at and block the entryway).
Here is the picture.... You can see the angle. that is version 1.0 Beta!

Homemade Ram Scoop for e60! 545i version 1.2-bmw_project1_scoop_008.jpg

Homemade Ram Scoop for e60! 545i version 1.2-bmw_project1_scoop_009.jpg


Now I am making a version 1.1 (same but angled to 90)

Homemade Ram Scoop for e60! 545i version 1.2-bmw_project1_scoop_011.jpg
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So I made the version 1.2 The scoop (same) is angled to 90 degrees.

Homemade Ram Scoop for e60! 545i version 1.2-bmw_project1_scoop_010.jpg

The view:

Homemade Ram Scoop for e60! 545i version 1.2-bmw_project1_scoop_012.jpg
Homemade Ram Scoop for e60! 545i version 1.2-bmw_project1_scoop_013.jpg


To see how it fits in the duct.

Homemade Ram Scoop for e60! 545i version 1.2-bmw_project1_scoop_017.jpg

Homemade Ram Scoop for e60! 545i version 1.2-bmw_project1_scoop_018.jpg
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I thought you couldn't really measure the impact of a ram air system on a stationary dyno, since when the car isn't moving, there's no ramming.... Am I wrong?
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Originally Posted by JPJ' post='684077' date='Oct 2 2008, 06:41 PM
I thought you couldn't really measure the impact of a ram air system on a stationary dyno, since when the car isn't moving, there's no ramming.... Am I wrong?
RPI dynos with a big fan blowing air @70 mph on a Dyno Dynamic dynamometer. Here's a
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Originally Posted by JPJ' post='684077' date='Oct 2 2008, 07:41 PM
I thought you couldn't really measure the impact of a ram air system on a stationary dyno, since when the car isn't moving, there's no ramming.... Am I wrong?
That is a good point.

I think the scoop will work better running from 50 km/h..... I am not all sure or wrong but there are dynos with a big fan that measures the speed/wind.
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Originally Posted by vegastrashed' post='683957' date='Oct 2 2008, 03:34 PM
No idea. That is why the beta testers for the 545i, pre-LCI 550i, and LCI 550i need to get dynoed.
The design that Eloy is selling has been proven on dyno. Don't worry, he will never sell stuff that doesn't work. GAURANTEE

Sorry for not making myself clear. My original custom made scoop(#86) was damage from chip/rock and Eloy got a new design(#83) for me to try instead of repair my original. I put the new one on for weekend run and my buddy told me that my car feel weaker. I have no clue until I put the car on dyno a week later and it put out 398whp(#83), then I put my original custom made scoop and redyno again at 425.8whp(#86)

I will put the production version on the dyno tomorrow and compare to my original custom design. If the result similar to my original one, I probably put the production one until the original get repaint.

My original custom: shape/size similar to M6 scoop but fit M5.
My new design that lose power: even bigger than my original. maybe even bigger than M6 version.

So, bigger doesn't mean it will flow better.


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