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Old 03-16-2005, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Lucky' date='Mar 16 2005, 11:34 AM
[quote name='garehaan' date='Mar 16 2005, 06:22 PM']Don't need socialism, doesn't work.
But you pay a lot in Sweden.
What we pay over here is even more then shameless. The absolute basic version of the 545 hits the price list at ? 80400,- so that's well over $ 100000 that we pay for the same car.

have a look at the Dutch BMW pricelist
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In Italy the price list for the 545i Eccelsa, the only one available, is 68600,00 euros.

The spec is top of the range, with almost everything included: Dakota leather, active steering, 18" alloys, professional nav, cd changer, PDC, electric mirrors, sport suspension, adaptive lights, bi-xenon, full electric seats and electric steering wheel.

So, it seems you in Holland pay at least 25% more than we do! Seems too big a difference inside the EU. WHy don?t you buy cars in Germany, then?
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Probably because once they get Dutch plates on them they will pay anyway these taxes (being Dutch residents)
Old 03-16-2005, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by igor' date='Mar 16 2005, 08:26 PM
[quote name='Lucky' date='Mar 16 2005, 11:34 AM'][quote name='garehaan' date='Mar 16 2005, 06:22 PM']Don't need socialism, doesn't work.
But you pay a lot in Sweden.
What we pay over here is even more then shameless. The absolute basic version of the 545 hits the price list at ? 80400,- so that's well over $ 100000 that we pay for the same car.

have a look at the Dutch BMW pricelist
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In Italy the price list for the 545i Eccelsa, the only one available, is 68600,00 euros.

The spec is top of the range, with almost everything included: Dakota leather, active steering, 18" alloys, professional nav, cd changer, PDC, electric mirrors, sport suspension, adaptive lights, bi-xenon, full electric seats and electric steering wheel.

So, it seems you in Holland pay at least 25% more than we do! Seems too big a difference inside the EU. WHy don?t you buy cars in Germany, then?
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Probably because once they get Dutch plates on them they will pay anyway these taxes (being Dutch residents)
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That's right: as soon as we get it registered in the Netherlands about 35% is added to the basic price for government taxes.
I can hear you thinking: get it registred in Germany or Belgium... No way, getting caught as Dutch resident driving a foreign licensed car that belongs to you will get you fined for the obligatory 35% + 35% extra fee.

Add to that insurance of about 2500-3000 euro, and annually extra taxes of about 600-1500 euro (600 for gas, 1500 for diesel) and it makes me wonder why did I buy such an expensive car?
Well, I love it!
And I love my little country.
Old 03-16-2005, 11:01 AM
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Man what an Awesome car... is that Silver Gray .. Looks Gorgeous!
Old 03-16-2005, 11:07 AM
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It makes me feel very lucky for living here in the good ol' USA. I stop complaining about the prices of cars long ago, after finding out that other people are paying way more for the same car.

On the down side, there is no exclusivity anymore. Every other neighbor of mine has a Bimmer, or benz.
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Originally Posted by garehaan' date='Mar 16 2005, 07:22 PM
Don't need socialism, doesn't work.
But you pay a lot in Sweden.
What we pay over here is even more then shameless. The absolute basic version of the 545 hits the price list at € 80400,- so that's well over $ 100000 that we pay for the same car.

have a look at the Dutch BMW pricelist
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over 80k euro? dang.... you win.

how are your income taxes etc? (i know - )

Originally Posted by Euro Speedster
Man what an Awesome car... is that Silver Gray .. Looks Gorgeous!
quite a beautiful colour indeed! however i wouldnt reccomend it to anyone who lives in the messier regions of the world unless they wash it every day. i had a 520 rental for about a month here during the winter - it was terrible. just terrible.

dont get me wrong - all dirty cars are ugly, its just that that particular color was even more so...
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Welcome aboard, narf !
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Originally Posted by Iceman' date='Mar 17 2005, 02:45 AM
Welcome aboard, narf !
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Why thank you, mr Iceman - its good to be here.


and let me just say dang.....


narf likes your car.
Old 03-17-2005, 03:31 AM
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Originally Posted by narf' date='Mar 16 2005, 08:25 AM
[quote name='subterFUSE' date='Mar 16 2005, 03:22 PM']
we pay $76,435 for the same car


Go Socialism!!!!!
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seriously. bloody excellent system. lets keep the lazy people alive with the money from the people who work hard and those who in other societies would be called "rich" (but cant, as the government takes all their money away), nicely tucked away by shoving ton after ton of paperwork at them so they can keep enough to put food on their families (the words of the great George Bush).

hows that - socialism in a sentence. a run on sentence, but a sentence none the less.


I was just looking at numbers today, and for a moderately equipped (read: not everything) 545, the government will be taxing me 11,400SEK/month (almost 1700USD). Tell me its better elsewhere... give me faith in the rest of society.

Originally Posted by djones4
We always get screwed in the US? , We will be lucky to ever even see the M5
oh you will - and you'll be damned sure its an m5 when you do

sorry - it shouldnt be funny - but im a little depressed myself - wondering if i really can afford this....

edit: you arent the only one getting screwed...
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Beautifly said
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Originally Posted by narf' date='Mar 17 2005, 09:15 AM
and let me just say dang.....


narf likes your car.
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Thanks!
But it's not finished yet...
Still some mods to do...
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ANY PICTURES OF THE REAR BUMPER??
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