Guess I dont know how to drive then..

 

A recent test of the 3 series in Test Drive magazine states "Don't waste your money on Active Steering". They tested 2 3's side by side one with and one without and said the one without had much better steering feel albeit a bitch to park!
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Right on. The people who actually know how to drive cars know AS is lame. PERIOD! BMW knows it too.
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Urbo

You never answered someone's question.
1) Do you have AS or not?
2) Are you stating your opinion based on one magazine article or your own experience?
3) Is it ok to for some people to disagree with your opinion?
4) What if you get used to some "stupid" things? Is that so bad?

You're implying in this thread that we (the people who love AS) bought this car based solely on AS alone. I think you missed the boat on there. I can't speak for most but I do know that i bought my car for what's important for me. Not because what I read in some magazine article. I looked at the whole package including the sports package, the drive, the ride, the comfort, the engine, etc.

I could have said people who bought all available options for their 530 including prem sound, nav, cold weather package, step tronics is "stupid" because they could have spent a couple of extra bucks could have bought a standards 545. BUT you won't hear that from me. It was their choice. They formed their own opinion and purchased a car/package that's right for them. I don't think that's stupid. And I certainly don't question their love or hate for their car. I respect their decision. PERIOD.

Streak asked for people's opinon on AS. I answered it. If me and others happen to like AS, it's our opinion.

Teriyaki

 

A recent test of the 3 series in Test Drive magazine states "Don't waste your money on Active Steering". They tested 2 3's side by side one with and one without and said the one without had much better steering feel albeit a bitch to park!
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Right on. The people who actually know how to drive cars know AS is lame. PERIOD! BMW knows it too.
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Do people who really know how to drive cars need PDC? Wow is that stupid and lame

 

A recent test of the 3 series in Test Drive magazine states "Don't waste your money on Active Steering". They tested 2 3's side by side one with and one without and said the one without had much better steering feel albeit a bitch to park!
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Right on. The people who actually know how to drive cars know AS is lame. PERIOD! BMW knows it too.
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Do people who really know how to drive cars need PDC? Wow is that stupid and lame
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Ha ha! I've explained that my wife also drives my car once in a while. And I'm not taking any chances of getting any dents/scrapes/etc. on my bumpers when she parks. Because she's not as anal or careful as I am. THAT is why I got PDC.

 

I've already stated (if people actually bother to read complete posts before replying) that I can't stand AS, that it's the reason I didn't get the sports package, etc. Plus do you see AS in my signature, indicating I have it? So please read before asking silly questions and demanding responses..

I'm not basing my dislike for AS on anything other than my experience from driving (quite often) my friend's 545i w/ SMG and Sports Package. I've drove it a lot before deciding what to get for an E60, before I got my 530. I also drove 2 cars at my dealer that had AS - a 530 w/ a manual transmission and a 545 with a Steptronic. I've driven enough to know that to me AS is stupid and makes no sense. It detracts. I think it's silly. Of course (again as I've said but apparently need to repeat) people get used to it. It's not hard to get used to it. People get used to many things. But that doesn't mean (and still I haven't seen any convincing statements to counter my argument) that those things (AS in this case) make sense, or are truly beneficial. On the contrary, I've seen statements that say the opposite. The may be fun and neat, like maybe adaptive cruise control, but they take away from the driving experience and cause more problems than they solve IMO. Technology for coolness sake is not cool..

How many people do you think got AS just for AS, rather than just because it came with the Sports Package? Probably a small percentage. Read my post where I said just this.

Notice also that I never attacked anyone for being "stupid". Other people started making jabs and misunderstanding me. So I "jabbed" back for fun. If anything people are a bit too sensitive here. Why's that? Why are you bothered by what I may think about AS if you are happy with it? I'm not arguing about likes and dislikes - I'm arguing against AS. You can argue for it. I don't care to get into a contest about preferences. That's not what this is about.

I've never said that if you got AS you made a stupid decision. People are putting words into my mouth. I've said that if you think you NEED AS then you need to learn how to drive. I belive that. Again, most have it because it came with the Sports Package. Most CAN drive of course. I'm talking in general. And I thought maybe people can be a bit more attentive and less sensitive. When I said "PERIOD!", I was just mimicking Iceman's post. Relax... And it's my opinion that AS is stupid. I also said (for those who bother to actually read) that I have no quarrel with those who like it. But don't tell me it makes sense. Or if you do, then tell me something that MAKES sense when you're telling me that AS is necessary unless you are an expert driver - as Rudy said/implied, or even helpful outside of the parking lot (which is what I said initially). If you want to tout the merits of AS, go ahead. I'm all ears. I'm touting that it's stupid as a technology, takes away from driver input, and can in certain cases be dangerous (see qoutes and try to even perhaps imagine some scenarios if you can).

Also, do I have to preface everything with "in my opinion"? Are we at that level or sillyness?

Here are some funny quotes from different posts below with my comments after:

"What AS does is give you much better control over a two ton vehicle than you could possibly have otherwise." - Really? Please ellaborate.

"I would say it's a must-have." - Really, why?

"It allows you to have racecar-like steering response around town without being twitchy at high speeds." - Is this a joke?

"Active steering is definitely a must have." - Really? Please ellaborate.

"As said above, it makes handling much better at slower speeds. The only pitfall is when you get in a car without the active steering and realize how much more effort it takes to corner." - I see...

"I love it. Can't do without it. Unfortunately I almost get in accidents when I drive my Lexus. I forget i need to make more effort to turn my other car." - Need I say more?

"If you are a qualified driving instructor w/ the proper experince and creditial, I am all ears to listen to your pointer. Otherwise, crack open a cold one and calm down." - Yeah, OK buddy...

 

And he is still not answering...

 

Guess I dont know how to drive then..
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Guess we all don't know how to drive... Only he knows!

 

Timestamps don't lie Iceman. Also it helps to read more carefully before getting into a qouting contest

 

it makes perfect sense if you think about it...technology is finally at a point where it can assist a driver to make an even more dynamic driving experience, and BMW is first to bring it to market

...think about AS as a form of 'drive by wire' technology ...it works great in flying jets, and i bet flying at multiples of mach speed are no less thrilling for a pilot even though the mechanical link is not there... AS is the first step toward a true 'drive by wire' in cars

 

Can we all just agree to STFU and be done w/ this endless debate.

Geezes!! there are greater tragics in life. Buy whatever the ***k you want!! dude

cheers,

beewang