Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' post='244921' date='Feb 23 2006, 04:19 PM

I come clean and i must say i'm in love with this car. Really now porsche stole my heart with this epic pice of engineering. Unless bmw does smth miraculous good with the upcoming m3 (in desgin and somehow performance, although almost everything compared to this 911 is redundant) i'm sold to the porsche. This became my dream car...no questions asked. This car is so techy and so brutal and yet civilised and so good looking and sooo................I RAN OUT OF SUPERLATIVES....that leaves any M car for dead. Maybe one day i'll get my dream come true. I don't care how fast it will be, after all the magazines and tv shows test it, i don't care (too much) how does it stack up to other cars, i don't know how it drive i just want it. The end.

Originally Posted by m630' post='245056' date='Feb 23 2006, 07:01 PM

...one thing i think is worth waiting on though before deciding is the upcoming audi R8...have you seen this yet? this is modeled after that Lemans concept car and its audi's competitior to the 911, and in a recent article they spoke about in being introduced late in the year, there will be 2 engines, a v8 and a v10 that has 200 more hp than the 911 and cost about the same, while the space frame is borrowed from the gallardo , so if this really comes out within a year for mid 80K's and has 500+hp in a car this light with that dsg tranny, i might give it a shot next time around, it looks killer from what i've seen

Originally Posted by 700700' post='245042' date='Feb 23 2006, 06:33 PM

1) it has a torque converter / torque staller (which ever way you want to put it), something you may have seen on your average supra. It basically makes sure that the car is not put into motion under the optimal revs are reached, kinda like doing a hard start and applying the brake so you can get higher revs... and so makes for the best possible time

2) Dual-clutch transmission will be available starting 2/2007

Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' post='245347' date='Feb 24 2006, 09:18 AM

Sorry but being a bit ignorant but that's only fairytales for me. And even if their aim is to to exactly that i don't think audi has what it takes to make a porsche rival, especially when the pole is set so high, we are not talking after all about a boxter. Maybe, but JUST maybe, bmw could have a word to say. Audi :thumbsdown:

Originally Posted by m630' post='245360' date='Feb 24 2006, 09:37 AM

i thought so as well, but i've read articles from audi engineers that it will have 500+hp v10...and remember that audi is sort of in the porsche family along with vw and that would include lambo, and as for rally car racing, they are one of the tops, now add dsg tranny and a lambo space frame, and this could be real nice...the reason i dont think its competing withBMW is that these both are true sports cars, bmw doesnt currently make a true sports car, we have GTs (6ers) and sports coupes (M3s) and maybe the new Z4M will have something to say regarding this, but no true sports car, which is the segment of the R8 and 911....we'll have to wait and see but...

Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' post='245351' date='Feb 24 2006, 02:23 PM

I am a little tired now but really i don't understand your explanation on point 1. Really....even though i try. Did you mean untill the optimal revs are reached? How does it do that? Are you trying to say it has some sort of launch control (by brake torquing on it's own)? And if so, why can't a proffessional driver do exactly the same thing (launch at a specific rpm and shift as fast as possible)?

and please i would like some more info on point 2. How much different is that dual clutch tranny from the DSG model found on audis and vw?

Originally Posted by Postel' post='245817' date='Feb 25 2006, 07:11 AM

I adore this car...

I never thought I would say this, but when I have to choose between the Turbo or the M6... hard choice, really...

Amazing creation, really amazing, no words to describe it...