2009 Cadillac CTS-V
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Originally Posted by swajames' post='516329' date='Jan 11 2008, 08:22 AM
That may not be the most flattering pic but to be honest there really aren't that many buttons in there. This car is far from being the worst offender in that regard (and of course the LCI E60 increased its own button count).
As far as number of buttons, again, maybe it's me but I'm seeing a bunch of them. There are some to the extreme left of the shot next to the dash vent, there are a bunch on the steering wheel (which look like they're too close together), and there are a ton of them scattered all over the center stack (again, many of them too close together to allow for good feedback.) There seems to be many more buttons than that of the E60. I can't tell for sure but it looks like the round knob below the analog clock might be some sort of "mouse" controller for the screen (similar to the iDrive controller) but my bet is that it would be tricky to keep your arm extended and accurately (and comfortably) use it while driving.
All I know is that each time I look at this photo, I get anxious.
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550 supercharged horsepower STOCK;
100HP+ only a pulley change away;
and all you guys can talk about is buttons.
I NEED AWD for my daily driver,
so hopefully BMW will deliver a AWD 5 series with a 4.4L turbo V8.
But, if I didn't NEED AWD,
I would choose the CTS-V in a second because no sedan on the planet is going to walk away from this thing......
especially when owners star swapping pulleys.
100HP+ only a pulley change away;
and all you guys can talk about is buttons.
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I NEED AWD for my daily driver,
so hopefully BMW will deliver a AWD 5 series with a 4.4L turbo V8.
But, if I didn't NEED AWD,
I would choose the CTS-V in a second because no sedan on the planet is going to walk away from this thing......
especially when owners star swapping pulleys.
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Originally Posted by TT C6' post='516616' date='Jan 11 2008, 10:48 PM
550 supercharged horsepower STOCK;
100HP+ only a pulley change away;
and all you guys can talk about is buttons.
I NEED AWD for my daily driver,
so hopefully BMW will deliver a AWD 5 series with a 4.4L turbo V8.
But, if I didn't NEED AWD,
I would choose the CTS-V in a second because no sedan on the planet is going to walk away from this thing......
especially when owners star swapping pulleys.![Smile](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/smile.gif)
100HP+ only a pulley change away;
and all you guys can talk about is buttons.
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I NEED AWD for my daily driver,
so hopefully BMW will deliver a AWD 5 series with a 4.4L turbo V8.
But, if I didn't NEED AWD,
I would choose the CTS-V in a second because no sedan on the planet is going to walk away from this thing......
especially when owners star swapping pulleys.
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Originally Posted by pukka' post='516745' date='Jan 12 2008, 02:27 AM
I'm not trying to steer this thread in a different direction. - But what pulley change is going to give you a 100hp boost?
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Originally Posted by TT C6' post='516616' date='Jan 11 2008, 10:48 PM
I NEED AWD for my daily driver,
so hopefully BMW will deliver a AWD 5 series with a 4.4L turbo V8.
But, if I didn't NEED AWD,
I would choose the CTS-V in a second because no sedan on the planet is going to walk away from this thing......
especially when owners star swapping pulleys.![Smile](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/smile.gif)
so hopefully BMW will deliver a AWD 5 series with a 4.4L turbo V8.
But, if I didn't NEED AWD,
I would choose the CTS-V in a second because no sedan on the planet is going to walk away from this thing......
especially when owners star swapping pulleys.
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Originally Posted by tachyon' post='515651' date='Jan 9 2008, 06:17 PM
The CTS-V is going to be all about the chasis and the engine - not about the touch screen NAV ... just as the M5 is not about iDrive.
I've driven the regular CTS as a rental car twice now and I'm very, very impressed with the ride and handling ... not too far behind an E60. And the interior is outstanding with the quality of materials and build as good or better than our E60s - and approaching the benchmark Audi.
It will be interesting to read the first-drive reviews of the CTS-V from the car mags - they LOVED the standard CTS. With massive power and torque, and a chasis tuned on the 'Ring - all for about $30,000 less than an M5 - this will be a car to pay attention to.
I've driven the regular CTS as a rental car twice now and I'm very, very impressed with the ride and handling ... not too far behind an E60. And the interior is outstanding with the quality of materials and build as good or better than our E60s - and approaching the benchmark Audi.
It will be interesting to read the first-drive reviews of the CTS-V from the car mags - they LOVED the standard CTS. With massive power and torque, and a chasis tuned on the 'Ring - all for about $30,000 less than an M5 - this will be a car to pay attention to.
Agreed. A force to reckon with. That said, IMHO the car mags went intially alittle over board on the standard CTS. I see new comparos with the 335 and G35 besting it. Put a twin turbo E60 on track with PS2s, the result would be the CTS far behind. The E60 has much more grip and power.
As for the CTS-V, it will enjoy a period of time bashing the German power sedans. Good stuff. But not for long though, the F10 will arive and crush it with better driving dynamics and better interior and electronics/interfaces. In the future the F10 will win most car mag comparos with the Caddy and others, with the main negative being like always, price.
But the main point is Caddy got close this time and the CTS-V will arguable top (performance/value) the German performance sedans for a brief moment. Of course Nissan could make a four door Skyline.
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Originally Posted by CVTBenhogan' post='516918' date='Jan 12 2008, 03:40 PM
Of course Nissan could make a four door Skyline.
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Originally Posted by heezy545i' post='516179' date='Jan 10 2008, 05:18 PM
Certainly not to the same level, but do you guys think this interior shares some similarities with the CTS-V?
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Here's the caddy again for comparison. It might not be the greatest, but I'm honestly impressed, especially for an American car.
![](https://img255.imageshack.us/img255/8313/2009cadillacctsv3dt8.jpg)
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Here's the caddy again for comparison. It might not be the greatest, but I'm honestly impressed, especially for an American car.
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Thats funny, they do look very similar. Clarkson always says the Aston's interior don't look like what you pay for them. He says they have a lot of Ford and Volvo parts in them.
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Originally Posted by tachyon' post='515651' date='Jan 9 2008, 04:17 PM
The CTS-V is going to be all about the chasis and the engine - not about the touch screen NAV ... just as the M5 is not about iDrive.
I've driven the regular CTS as a rental car twice now and I'm very, very impressed with the ride and handling ... not too far behind an E60. And the interior is outstanding with the quality of materials and build as good or better than our E60s - and approaching the benchmark Audi.
It will be interesting to read the first-drive reviews of the CTS-V from the car mags - they LOVED the standard CTS. With massive power and torque, and a chasis tuned on the 'Ring - all for about $30,000 less than an M5 - this will be a car to pay attention to.
I've driven the regular CTS as a rental car twice now and I'm very, very impressed with the ride and handling ... not too far behind an E60. And the interior is outstanding with the quality of materials and build as good or better than our E60s - and approaching the benchmark Audi.
It will be interesting to read the first-drive reviews of the CTS-V from the car mags - they LOVED the standard CTS. With massive power and torque, and a chasis tuned on the 'Ring - all for about $30,000 less than an M5 - this will be a car to pay attention to.
Otherwise, nice ride and feel. Much improved interior from last gen.
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i love the grills, thats it