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Old Mar 27, 2006 | 09:21 AM
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Hello

I am going to buy a BMW E60 in the near future. I have heard that there are two kinds of mobile handsfree systems.

There is one called 'Universal' and the other is with Bluetooth. I hope someone could explain the difference is between these systems.

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Old Mar 27, 2006 | 05:02 PM
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If you're talking about two systems from BMW, it's likely that they are both Bluetooth based. One type is when the car has integrated Bluetooth and the other is an Bluetooth adaptor that converts cars that supported the CPT9000 phone (early E60's and other BMW models) to Bluetooth capable...
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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 04:17 AM
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The "universal" thing You mention is probably the UHI (Universal Handheld Interface) system used by Mercedes-Benz, which is not (yet) Bluetooth-based, but consists of a build-in (wired) interface connecting the cellphone via specific adapter to the COMAND nav/communication system.

The E60?s system is a phone-specific adapter for charging and external antenna connection only, the phone itself (i.e. the communication signal) is connected to the car?s communication system wireless via Bluetooth, allowing for hands-free use with the car?s speaker system and phonebook management with the i-drive system. Unfortunately, the choice of mobile phones is quite limited through the availability of specific adapters, basically You only can use Nokia, Siemens, Sony and Motorola.
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Originally Posted by oyster' post='261294' date='Mar 28 2006, 02:17 PM
The "universal" thing You mention is probably the UHI (Universal Handheld Interface) system used by Mercedes-Benz, which is not (yet) Bluetooth-based, but consists of a build-in (wired) interface connecting the cellphone via specific adapter to the COMAND nav/communication system.

The E60?s system is a phone-specific adapter for charging and external antenna connection only, the phone itself (i.e. the communication signal) is connected to the car?s communication system wireless via Bluetooth, allowing for hands-free use with the car?s speaker system and phonebook management with the i-drive system. Unfortunately, the choice of mobile phones is quite limited through the availability of specific adapters, basically You only can use Nokia, Siemens, Sony and Motorola.

What phone will dislay text messages on the I drive screen. From your description above it seems as if data has to be tranferred via blue tooth.

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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by oyster' post='261294' date='Mar 28 2006, 08:17 AM
The "universal" thing You mention is probably the UHI (Universal Handheld Interface) system used by Mercedes-Benz, which is not (yet) Bluetooth-based, but consists of a build-in (wired) interface connecting the cellphone via specific adapter to the COMAND nav/communication system.

The E60?s system is a phone-specific adapter for charging and external antenna connection only, the phone itself (i.e. the communication signal) is connected to the car?s communication system wireless via Bluetooth, allowing for hands-free use with the car?s speaker system and phonebook management with the i-drive system. Unfortunately, the choice of mobile phones is quite limited through the availability of specific adapters, basically You only can use Nokia, Siemens, Sony and Motorola.
I think the universal thing he's mentioning is the BMW "BTUM" that was recently introduced...

http://forums.e60.net/index.php?showtopic=21734
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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Rudy' post='261343' date='Mar 28 2006, 04:28 PM
I think the universal thing he's mentioning is the BMW "BTUM" that was recently introduced...

http://forums.e60.net/index.php?showtopic=21734
Actually, you can get snap-in adapters for telephones with or without Bluetooth. But I am wondering whether your can use the phone through iDrive system if have the handsfree without Bluetooth. I am pretty sure that you can get a handsfree solution without Bluetooth for BMW E60. The car I am considering buying is 2005 BMW 525i from Germany.
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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 06:25 AM
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Look at page 12 in this BMW Accessories catalog from Sweden.

http://www.bmw.se/tillbehor/pdf/prislistor/5-serien.pdf

You can clearly see that they sell two different kinds of snap-in adapters. Some of the phones listed under the 'Universal' coloumn don't even have a bluetooth function.
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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 06:56 AM
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Ah, now I get it! This "universal" thing is an aftersales option only, You can?t order it from the factory.
It?s an interface connecting older (non-Bluetooth) mobile phones to the car?s communication system using phone-specific adapters. The hardware pack itself seems not too expensive, but getting it installed, at an official dealer, will cost You a lot of money. Moreover, for most phone models, it provides just the hands-free audio, all other functions are only available on the phone itself. In short, most aftermarket adapter/charger hands-free solutions are better value.
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