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Old 03-24-2010, 08:54 PM
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Oh I see....i was reading some stuff online and found this:

The U.S. Post Service was established in 1775.You have had 234 years to get it right and it is BROKE. Social Security was established in 1935. You have had 74 years to get it right and it is BROKE. Fannie Mae was established in 1938. You have had 71 years to get it right and it is BROKE.

War on Poverty started in 1964. You have had 45 years to get it right; 1$ trillion of our money is confiscated each year and transferred to "the poor" and they only want more. Medicare and Medicaid were established in 1965. You have had 44 years to get it right and they are BROKE.Freddie Mac was established in 1970. You have had 39 years to get it right and it is BROKE.

The Department of Energy was created in 1977 to lessen our dependence on foreign oil. It has ballooned to 16,000 employees with a budget of $24 billion a year and we import more oil than ever before. You had 32 years to get it right and it is an abysmal FAILURE.

You have FAILED in every "government service" you have shoved down our throats while overspending our tax dollars. AND YOU WANT AMERICANS TO BELIEVE YOU CAN BE TRUSTED WITH A GOVERNMENT-RUN HEALTH CARE SYSTEM??

This is funny because this goes back to one of Dranged posts in a previous thread where he said anything the government gets involved in isnt successful. Why will healthcare be any different? Our country currently has the largest debt in its history and it doesnt show signs of slowing. Our unemployment rate is through the roof. Yet our government just keeps printing and devaluing our dollar.
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I don't wanna read any of your responses, cuz we all know it doesn't matter - we are all without balls and that's that. When someone starts talking about some real solutions, as opposed to just bitching about how "this isn't right" and "that isn't fair", wake me up, alright
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Originally Posted by v_therussian
I don't wanna read any of your responses, cuz we all know it doesn't matter - we are all without balls and that's that. When someone starts talking about some real solutions, as opposed to just bitching about how "this isn't right" and "that isn't fair", wake me up, alright
Here's the solution, free markets. 100% Capitalism. Sure there will be losers, there always will be, but history has shown that when free market capitalism is in full swing, the unemployment goes down and GDP per capita goes up.

A large government NEVER works. Large government leads to more people being employed by the government, so these people will always vote for the left to secure their wages. A large government leads to corruption, open up a fucking history book people.
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Originally Posted by Krozi
Here's the solution, free markets. 100% Capitalism. Sure there will be losers, there always will be, but history has shown that when free market capitalism is in full swing, the unemployment goes down and GDP per capita goes up.

A large government NEVER works. Large government leads to more people being employed by the government, so these people will always vote for the left to secure their wages. A large government leads to corruption, open up a fucking history book people.
Just as the case is with pure socialism or practical communism, pure 100% capitalism cannot exist because of the nature of human beings. I'm not gonna get into a discussion about this with you, because I think you completely understand that I'm right about this. It pains me to say these words - I am, obviously, more sympathetic to capitalism philosophically.

But with years, I started realizing that capitalism, socialism, and even patriotism are all nothing but words that politicians and other interested parties use to provoke a certain reaction and generate a desired public opinion. Its in the same category of la-la-land vocabulary terms as Obama's "hope" and W's "we're gonna get 'em" - it is all bullshit, kid.

All of it.

There aren't any honest people running this shit - and the way things are looking, there cannot possibly be any.

Since you're about to turn 18 this year (I think - right?), I might as well "initiate" you a little bit and tell you that the only thing you can look forward to as you're becoming an adult, is getting royally screwed from every possible (and impossible) direction, while you're trying to hop from one tiny isle of sanity to the next in the sea of idiots, imbeciles, assholes, douchebags, self-important mama's boys with a inferiority complexes birthing schemes from their repressed desires large enough to make Madoff's scheme AND Enron put together look like your average pump-and-dump operation from early 1990's... then you got your bitches, whores, white trash, trash of every other color, snobs that know no other opinion than their own and believe that Jesus wants them to re-elect George W. Bush so we can "kick some A-rab ass"... soldiers who sign up only to use their weapons - not protect the peaceful populations, cops who sign up to use their guns on people of the race they hate; child molesters, abusive mothers... the list is about as long as there are people in this world, because every one of us has - in some way or another - a very "special" thing that we now are.

And after all said and done - and I'm coming from experience here - it is all still ain't that bad. This is the only country where the pursuit of happiness is guaranteed to all people by the Constitution - and that makes it the best place to live. Even if it does mean that over time, we've bred enough inbreds to overthrow sanity for good...
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Originally Posted by v_therussian
Just as the case is with pure socialism or practical communism, pure 100% capitalism cannot exist because of the nature of human beings. I'm not gonna get into a discussion about this with you, because I think you completely understand that I'm right about this. It pains me to say these words - I am, obviously, more sympathetic to capitalism philosophically.

But with years, I started realizing that capitalism, socialism, and even patriotism are all nothing but words that politicians and other interested parties use to provoke a certain reaction and generate a desired public opinion. Its in the same category of la-la-land vocabulary terms as Obama's "hope" and W's "we're gonna get 'em" - it is all bullshit, kid.

All of it.

There aren't any honest people running this shit - and the way things are looking, there cannot possibly be any.

Since you're about to turn 18 this year (I think - right?), I might as well "initiate" you a little bit and tell you that the only thing you can look forward to as you're becoming an adult, is getting royally screwed from every possible (and impossible) direction, while you're trying to hop from one tiny isle of sanity to the next in the sea of idiots, imbeciles, assholes, douchebags, self-important mama's boys with a inferiority complexes birthing schemes from their repressed desires large enough to make Madoff's scheme AND Enron put together look like your average pump-and-dump operation from early 1990's... then you got your bitches, whores, white trash, trash of every other color, snobs that know no other opinion than their own and believe that Jesus wants them to re-elect George W. Bush so we can "kick some A-rab ass"... soldiers who sign up only to use their weapons - not protect the peaceful populations, cops who sign up to use their guns on people of the race they hate; child molesters, abusive mothers... the list is about as long as there are people in this world, because every one of us has - in some way or another - a very "special" thing that we now are.

And after all said and done - and I'm coming from experience here - it is all still ain't that bad. This is the only country where the pursuit of happiness is guaranteed to all people by the Constitution - and that makes it the best place to live. Even if it does mean that over time, we've bred enough inbreds to overthrow sanity for good...
I feel a lot better now

But I guess your right, time will most likely tell. And about the 100% capitalism...I guess you are right...I'm
pretty sure non of this shit will matter either way because it will be impossible to recover our debt.
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Originally Posted by v_therussian
Just as the case is with pure socialism or practical communism, pure 100% capitalism cannot exist because of the nature of human beings. I'm not gonna get into a discussion about this with you, because I think you completely understand that I'm right about this. It pains me to say these words - I am, obviously, more sympathetic to capitalism philosophically.

But with years, I started realizing that capitalism, socialism, and even patriotism are all nothing but words that politicians and other interested parties use to provoke a certain reaction and generate a desired public opinion. Its in the same category of la-la-land vocabulary terms as Obama's "hope" and W's "we're gonna get 'em" - it is all bullshit, kid.

All of it.

There aren't any honest people running this shit - and the way things are looking, there cannot possibly be any.

Since you're about to turn 18 this year (I think - right?), I might as well "initiate" you a little bit and tell you that the only thing you can look forward to as you're becoming an adult, is getting royally screwed from every possible (and impossible) direction, while you're trying to hop from one tiny isle of sanity to the next in the sea of idiots, imbeciles, assholes, douchebags, self-important mama's boys with a inferiority complexes birthing schemes from their repressed desires large enough to make Madoff's scheme AND Enron put together look like your average pump-and-dump operation from early 1990's... then you got your bitches, whores, white trash, trash of every other color, snobs that know no other opinion than their own and believe that Jesus wants them to re-elect George W. Bush so we can "kick some A-rab ass"... soldiers who sign up only to use their weapons - not protect the peaceful populations, cops who sign up to use their guns on people of the race they hate; child molesters, abusive mothers... the list is about as long as there are people in this world, because every one of us has - in some way or another - a very "special" thing that we now are.

And after all said and done - and I'm coming from experience here - it is all still ain't that bad. This is the only country where the pursuit of happiness is guaranteed to all people by the Constitution - and that makes it the best place to live. Even if it does mean that over time, we've bred enough inbreds to overthrow sanity for good...
Cynics UNITE!!!!! Well said Vlad, and so true. As I said before, BOTH parties are whores to lobbyists, that's all. There are no "representatives of the people", because in Washington (and any other capital) those people are referred to as "suckers".
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Originally Posted by Krozi
I feel a lot better now

But I guess your right, time will most likely tell. And about the 100% capitalism...I guess you are right...I'm
pretty sure non of this shit will matter either way because it will be impossible to recover our debt.

Not to worry Marc, because if the Mayan's were right this shit will all blow up in 2012
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I'm starting a utopia in Antarctica! Were gonna grow ice plant, sell ice cubes to Zimbabwe, and whale blubber. Who's with me!!!!
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I'm starting a utopia in Antarctica! Were gonna grow ice plant, sell ice cubes to Zimbabwe, and whale blubber. Who's with me!!!!
Will there be cake and lemon pledge?
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I'll go if there are Oreos and Dancing girls


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