m630

Well what do you expect when you elect a socialist to the presidency???? The administration has decided we're no longer in a War on Terror, so just like our naievty of the pre 9/11 world, we will again believe that if we are "nice" that the world will love us....I just pray that we in NYC do not have to again pay the ultimate sacrafice for the liberal socialists running our country

NEVER FORGET

UUronL

I have seen industries left to die (the steel industry in the early 80s), and I have seen industries saved through this so-called "socialism" (the airlines).


The underlying problem no one wants to talk about is that we have a problem in America. We have this terrible habit of deciding that really expensive things need to be affordable for everyone.


-Air travel costs much more than the prices airlines recoup, yet it's somehow "patriotic" to make sure that Americans can make extensive use of air travel.

-Home ownership. The true risk involved with the loans made to questionable borrowers would have meant far greater interest rates. Yet it was somehow "patriotic" to make sure that Americans could pay a bank for their dwelling instead of a landlord.


I could go on...



The cost of making cars more efficient is costly using today's techniques and today's thinking. The country is being asked to think differently and to grow. For the first time that I can remember, we have a shot at breaking loose from old ruts that have been holding us back. We have a chance to mold America into a new dream that respects core values but makes some critical changes.

The new fuel economy requirements will push these companies to innovate. They'll also need to remove complacency, stale paradigms, and bad thinking. If our automakers fail to tackle these core issues, they deserve the predicted outcome.

lightfytr

Great points... I as most of you love this country so damn much and I want us to do the right things. No one politican has demonstrated that to me yet. Our current president, I feel, cares for the average American more than some others and wants to help people. We are too strong and powerful to have people losing everything, i.e. bankcruptcy because of medical bills (rediculous fact). Change has got to come but it will be painful to all

swajames

I agree entirely. For me, one of the great things about America and the American people is the wonderful sense of tradition (I'm not American by the way, just privileged to live and work here) but as you say it is something that could potentially hamper the country's ability to emerge stronger, leaner and fitter. I think the country has a real chance here to reinvent itself here, and I really think it will.

solrac6262

+1

solrac6262

ok 1st point---- the first stimuless package didn't do S#@#t on the Bush admon.. now Obama is in charge--- his stimuless package I will sugest, instead of sending money to the museums, amtrak or building more basketball courts, should send the money ..

to the banks ( I KNOW I KNOW first stimuless package it was supposed to do that, but the senate did not do a good job on regulations- so the banks hold the money and didn't help out) so now I will think the best thing to do is move the money where the problem is housing market.. helping people out lending money to bussines.. not to freaking build some new buildings for the agriculture dept..





Oh by the way, I have no problem with many of these "socialist" programs such as healthcare and others that are being pushed, we should be taking care of our people where we can and not always using the pull yourself up by your bootstraps.

in that case man, don't want to ofend or anythig dude but I have to pay a lot of tax's.. its a must to pay for our homeland security.. our veterans etc etc .. but walfare dude only to people that really need the help, not people that goes and have more kids just to get a better check and has better food on the fridge than I and healhcare mandatory I don't agree..

UUronL

Don't get me started on healthcare... that's the next crash waiting in the wings.


I watch an NBC show called "The Biggest Loser". They were stating that the contestants were able to wean themselves off of medications by losing weight and becoming healthier. In many cases, the savings would be $750,000 USD over the rest of their projected lives - and that was just the part that they would be paying out of pocket, not what insurance was paying to drug companies.

Imagine what would happen to the healthcare and pharma industries if we actually -did- get healthier as a nation.

Imagine what would happen if we actually did establish a system that radically cut the amount of spending our nation makes on healthcare.

I don't know how you could avoid massive insolvency and layoffs for the healthcare and drug industries. They have built their empires on our collective bad health and the bloated system of "sickness management".



Be careful what you wish for...

m630

and if you like socialism, move to europe, we as Americans do not want socialism in any way shape or form, that leads to welfare states and destroys the motives to succeed

garylewa

Why can't the banks be honest and actually tell the administration the real amount of cash they need to become solvent again?? These clowns are sitting on stacks of cash but are afraid to use it because they are showing at least 2 trillion more in toxic paper (60 MINUTES, December). This is still the major (if not the largest) issue here. These people have throttled the world economy.
I wish Obama would gather these bank exec's in one room and literally ask what they need (how much $) to begin re-issuing credit. The TARP bailout is just the first chunk of cash these institutions need; there will have to be more.

solrac6262

that was another member post, I don't like socialism.. thats why I hate to see how the gov wants to run everything...