Originally Posted by pinguhk' post='697777' date='Oct 21 2008, 12:05 AM

ya I dont know why mac book price is higher when it gose out of the US, Like HK if they keep the price same as pc then I think they will sell more.
BUT in asia itis very hard to sell mac cos of the copy software that ppl can not get.

Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' post='697994' date='Oct 20 2008, 02:34 PM

Well i don't quite agree with you man. I mean i found that with the iphone apple has really made a step further and brought mobile phones a step forward into the future. Now when i look at my normal smartphone SE P1i or even a blackberry it seems odd to have so many buttons and frankly so many functions that are used only a few times per year. Don't get me wrong, i'm not getting defensive here with apple, nor i'm trying to convince anyone anymore about my beliefs but i seem to find in the crippled (as in functions) iphone exactly what i wanted in a phone.

Ease of access, fast and stable OS (unlike Windows Mobile and especially Symbian) and a really great intuitive almost organic connection with the phone.

Someone asked me after i bought my iphone 3g if i would think it lacks something or if it needed to be improved. I said yes! For sure there are lots of things to imrove, like adress the copy paste issue, address the bluetooth issue (virtaully useless now) and other minor things like saving youtube videos etc etc. but for now for me it's just a very solid phone that still has room for improvement, but it's a phone and a nice gadget at the same time. I mean why would anyone pay for a super packed phone like the N95 and use the features only at 70% and when used at 100% having the batterl last 2 hours is beyond my understanding but to each of it's own.

I found out in the end that i don't really need copy paste that badly, nor do i bluetooth anything more often than 2-3 times per year, nor do i need videocalling since most of the people don't use it. In fact i had until now all my phone equipped with front and back cameras for videocalling and i only did it for 2 minutes once to see what's what and that was it.
As for camera, i wouldn't even really need the current one, let alone video recording and other stuff. I had even 5MP cell phone cameras and it still sucks compared to a 3 MP compact proper photo camera. When i see people taking pics with their expensive phones at concerts or any kind of events (5 MP and even more) i really feel pitty for them. It's like having a powerfull SUV and packed with extras but throw it on some twisties thinking that's fast.

Anyway back to apple macbook. I really think there is NO need now for Blur Ray support. NOT YET! I mean i dunno how much it hit US but here bluray is still a very expensive and rather useless technology. I mean a blak bluray costs here around 20 $ when for the same money you can get 50 DVDs. If total space wise there is no comparison one might ask aaah but what about the big 1080p formats ?! Well since the players here are still very expensive (1000$ +) the only option is to buy PC or laptop equipped with blu ray players/writer which cost less now, but what's the point in that if you're not likely to pay 1000$ for a player. Most people, myself included, prefere to hook up their laptops/PCs to the widescreen cinema display at home via HDMI and enjoy 1080p videos easy, efortlessly and cheap.

So bottom line is, until the blu ray standard drops in price to a more affordable level it will not really be needed. The same happened with the CDs and the DVDs at first, although not at the same degree. Also the technology itself needs to improve alot. I mean once (and i stress ONLY ONCE) when i burned a Blu Ray i almost fell asleep. Burning 25Gigs at 4x was just painful.

And apple, from what i saw, did innovate. I mean aren't they the first to bring this unibody enclosure? Sitting down now, and writing this reply on my Vaio SZ, although it is considered as a premium notebook, having a carbon fiber chassis, i'm telling you when i first held a macbook air i was amazed of how rigid and solid it felt, with little flex and no creaks and sqeaks due to the minimal use of chassis components. AND yet is was so light and thin i could hardly believe it.

Also weren't they the ones that brought backlit keyboards to notebooks? Plus from what i read i understood they hold the patent for the hdd drive shock sensor.

So IMO they do bring alot of innovation and most of it pays off. The same can be said about the huge success of the ipods and now iphone. I like the way they think: "We consider the iphone a great product but obviously the customer will be the one to decide on that, but in the end we truly believe in the iphone just as be believed in the ipod. If the customer will reject it, that's it...too bad, but we think it's a great product"

Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' post='698001' date='Oct 21 2008, 02:40 AM

You're the expert man so if you say so...
God forbid to get a blue screen while doing some long renderings

Off topic: Take a look at this

Originally Posted by pinguhk' post='698366' date='Oct 20 2008, 05:01 PM

I never had a blue screen for over 5 years now in the office and home.
maybe because they are all dell computer and are very stable

Originally Posted by ImolaRedM' post='698409' date='Oct 21 2008, 09:09 AM

Dell!? Ha! I've been so disappointed with their stuff in recent years. It used to be that Dell made good and bad computers and you got what you paid for. Now, I'm not so sure anymore and only their rack mounted stuff is worth anything. Just my opinion.

Originally Posted by GENEaTALS' post='698453' date='Oct 21 2008, 09:42 AM

this is turning into something like an MB vs BMW discussion....

Originally Posted by UUronL' post='698355' date='Oct 21 2008, 02:37 AM

We'll have to agree to disagree. I see the iPhone (and other Apple products) as bringing advanced "techie" functionality to the masses - folks who don't quite understand how to wring the capabilities out of the hardware they buy. I had been doing much more with my WM devices years before the iPhone came out. There are still things that iPhone can't do that my WM6 device does quite easily (btw, WM 6.1 is rock-solid stable). The maddening thing is that Apple -could- make these capabilities available, they're just spoon-feeding the masses. That's the point of the graphic I put in my post. They get to decide what Apple users consume, what features they get to use. Shrug. If you're ok with that, then I'm happy for you. I can't subject myself to it - my company would have paid for an iPhone for me, I turned it down. The next year or so should be very interesting. I think Android is going to mop the floor with the iPhone and its closed system.

As for BluRay, I suppose the economies of it are different in the US than in Romania, but here I think it's time for BluRay in my computer hardware. I'm sure Sony isn't making it cheap enough for Apple - I'm sure they'd love to do it, but the cost is probably eating too much of their princely margins.

I'm pretty sure IBM has the patent on drive shock stuff, but we could be talking about different mechanisms. The fetid spec called Firewire is definitely Apple's abortion of an innovation... possibly the biggest and most persistent security hole in the last 10 years.