MacBook vs. MacBook Pro
12-09-2008, 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Westcoast M5' post='740879' date='Dec 9 2008, 06:32 AM
I am a PC user but bought a Mac Book air a few months back just for the hell of it. Something light for surfing on the couch. I have to say the best thing is the apple touchpad. I don't know if the mac book pro has the same pad, but it's fantastic. 2 fingers to scroll, 3 fingers to go forward/back. Just blows away any PC notebook when it comes to surfing.
12-09-2008, 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by UUronL' post='740676' date='Dec 9 2008, 12:37 AM
Browsing is an attack vector that is growing almost daily, and has no real OS boundaries. There are easy exploits across OSes. While Chrome, Safari, etc... have "porn modes", they don't provide true browser security that a product like Forcefield (Zonelabs) can deliver. Sadly it's only for Windows right now.
This is a good paper from some Google scientists about the growing security threats our browsers are exposing us to.
Attachment 66767
This is a good paper from some Google scientists about the growing security threats our browsers are exposing us to.
Attachment 66767
Man they just wanna 'surf some porn' rather safely, they don't want to remain undetected or bullet proof to NSA.Although what you say is true that there are some exploits that work across multi-platform, a quick google search will provide anyone what is the most vulnerable OS and what company is almost always @#$#@ up. I'm not saying more.
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Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' post='741152' date='Dec 9 2008, 05:02 AM
Man they just wanna 'surf some porn' rather safely, they don't want to remain undetected or bullet proof to NSA.Although what you say is true that there are some exploits that work across multi-platform, a quick google search will provide anyone what is the most vulnerable OS and what company is almost always @#$#@ up. I'm not saying more.
It only takes one exploit to ruin your day/week/month, and a quick search will yield far more than one for -any- OS.
Hubris is the enemy of security, and a quick search will provide anyone with what user base always has the most... I'm not saying more.
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If size the screen size doesn't matter to you then go for the 13" macbook. My friend who does graphic and web design for his work went from a 17" macbook pro to the new unibody 13" and couldn't be happier(he did upgrade his ram to 4gb).
I will say this though, my gf just picked up the 15 inch macbook pro unibody and if you plan on running bootcamp to run windows applications, be prepared to use an external mouse. Because of the one piece trackpad design, inputs to the mouse are rather shaky on Xp(even with the mac drivers installed). I'm hoping they release an update for this.
edit* oh yeah someone mentioned refurbished ones..... heres the link
http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/spec...mac?mco=MTM3MzI
keep in mind they are they older models
I will say this though, my gf just picked up the 15 inch macbook pro unibody and if you plan on running bootcamp to run windows applications, be prepared to use an external mouse. Because of the one piece trackpad design, inputs to the mouse are rather shaky on Xp(even with the mac drivers installed). I'm hoping they release an update for this.
edit* oh yeah someone mentioned refurbished ones..... heres the link
http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/spec...mac?mco=MTM3MzI
keep in mind they are they older models
12-09-2008, 10:02 AM
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thank you for everyone's input!
i noticedd most of the mid tier MB and MBP's only come with 2GB of RAM. being that i'm new to the MAC world, do these machine make better use of RAM vs. a PC? thus not needing as much RAM?! cuz' i know with any PC, 2GB of RAM would be somewhat insufficient.
thoughts?
i noticedd most of the mid tier MB and MBP's only come with 2GB of RAM. being that i'm new to the MAC world, do these machine make better use of RAM vs. a PC? thus not needing as much RAM?! cuz' i know with any PC, 2GB of RAM would be somewhat insufficient.
thoughts?
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Originally Posted by MacFly™' post='741440' date='Dec 9 2008, 10:02 PM
thank you for everyone's input!
i noticedd most of the mid tier MB and MBP's only come with 2GB of RAM. being that i'm new to the MAC world, do these machine make better use of RAM vs. a PC? thus not needing as much RAM?! cuz' i know with any PC, 2GB of RAM would be somewhat insufficient.
thoughts?
i noticedd most of the mid tier MB and MBP's only come with 2GB of RAM. being that i'm new to the MAC world, do these machine make better use of RAM vs. a PC? thus not needing as much RAM?! cuz' i know with any PC, 2GB of RAM would be somewhat insufficient.
thoughts?
Take a look here and see the answer to my initial question on apple forums.
Leopard is blazing fast compared to Windows.
All the best!
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Later edit: To really answer you question: 2 GB of RAM is enough for most activities, even some low-medium photo editing/rendering. But if you upgrade to 4 GB not only you get more space but you get alot more speed, and not only in heavy ram usage apps but in Leopard also.
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If you plan on virtualizing Windows, Photoshop and pr0ntube... you'll appreciate the extra speediness 4GB of RAM provides for multitasking. Just get the MacBook Pro foo. It's like H&R Sport vs. KW V2's.
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i'm gonna get the MP, the MBP is a big too large...i'm coo with the 13" monitor. i hope the 13" monitor doesn't rub!lol
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Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' post='741454' date='Dec 9 2008, 11:16 AM
Yes MacFly. I documented on this quite in depth. Leopard has a unique way of addressing the ram and using it, unlike any other windows PC.
Take a look here and see the answer to my initial question on apple forums.
Leopard is blazing fast compared to Windows.
All the best!
Andrei
Later edit: To really answer you question: 2 GB of RAM is enough for most activities, even some low-medium photo editing/rendering. But if you upgrade to 4 GB not only you get more space but you get alot more speed, and not only in heavy ram usage apps but in Leopard also.
Take a look here and see the answer to my initial question on apple forums.
Leopard is blazing fast compared to Windows.
All the best!
Andrei
Later edit: To really answer you question: 2 GB of RAM is enough for most activities, even some low-medium photo editing/rendering. But if you upgrade to 4 GB not only you get more space but you get alot more speed, and not only in heavy ram usage apps but in Leopard also.
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Firewire is the real plus of going to the MBP for some. Another nice feature is that the MBP supports 6GB or RAM (unofficially). The extra memory is great for Virtualization.